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Re: newspaper and - or straw


Kitty - I think the hotter it is, the quicker it breaks down. My lasagna
bed went from newspaper, yard waste, leaves and some spent potting soil
to rich black dirt in less than a year. But that's w/ Texas heat baking
it and our veryyyyy long growing season. Anyone do this up North - does
it take longer as I suspect it would?


Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Kitty
Sent: 4/12/2004 10:23:25 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: [CHAT] newspaper and - or straw

> Melody,

> Your new bed success brings to mind a qstn I have for lasagna gardening

> devotees:

> 

> Last year (early summer)  I tried 2 ideas advocated on Chat.  I tried the

> newspaper under soil for a new bed.  Well, after digging in there the other

> day I found I could still read the newspaper - does this seem right?

> 

> Also, Gene and others suggested shredding up my excess straw from

> overwintering and lay that in an area for a new bed and cover with soil.  It

> is still straw under there.  How long does it take to at least start

> breaking down?

> 

> Am I missing something or am I just impatient?

> 

> Kitty

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>

> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:47 AM

> Subject: [CHAT] Late Easter Greetings and catch-up

> 

> 

> > Dear gardening friends: Hope you all had a wonderful Easter! We spent at

> > least a portion of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at church

> > celebrating this most Holy of seasons...I especially love our Easter

> > Vigil service, done by candlelight...so beautiful. Easter day was spent

> > in the garden once we got home from Mass...the weather was absolutely

> > perfect for working outside. The peppermint/spearmint dig up is about

> > half done after two weekends of hard work. We have decided that the only

> > way to get rid of most of it is to completely spade up every square inch

> > of soil in the garden down to a depth of at least 8-10 inches and then

> > with a hand rake sort it all out for roots/pieces. Arduous and time

> > consuming but it seems the only real way to get the stuff out. I do have

> > a happy observation to report for the group though...this particular

> > garden bed is the former site of a large (90') pine that several years

> > ago was ripped out of the ground by its roots during a severe wind

> > storm. The lost tree left a staggeringly massive hole in the ground and

> > we had it filled in with a large dumptruck-full of "fill dirt" which

> > turned out to be this horrible clay stuff. At the time we originally did

> > this bed,about six years ago, we amended the clay as much as we could

> > with vermiculite and compost burr (lots and lots of each) and at the

> > time it did not seem to help. We then covered it over with landscaping

> > cloth, planted it, and mulched. To my utter amazement, this entire bed

> > is now filled with a beautiful, rich black soil, ripe with the hugest

> > nightcrawlers you'd ever want to see. I guess I had assumed that this

> > bed would always be full of clay, so how come it's not? I mean, I know

> > the earthworms are hard workers, but doesn't that seem like an awful lot

> > of work for only six years? Nature never ceases to amaze me. One of the

> > benefits of hand digging out all this mint is that I have been able to

> > save all my gaura, purple coneflowers, and blue flax and replant it in

> > the clean parts of the bed as we go, so it's sort

> >

> > of a revision project too. The blue flax started as three little plants

> > I received from the kids for mother's day about 5 years ago and now are

> > dozens of plants everywhere...yippee! This is one of my favorites.

> >

> >

> > BTW, Moses the cat is still around...no luck yet finding a home for him

> > but he seems utterly content where he is...he has now moved his sleeping

> > quarters to my compost heap area and has found himself a shelter behind

> > a piece of scrap plywood that leans up against the garage. Today while I

> > was resting my back a little and enjoying laying in the grass flat on my

> > back with my feet propped up on a nearby rock, here he comes and plops

> > down beside me, rolls over on his back and meows...he apparently likes

> > to have his tummy rubbed. I noticed he has a little sore on one of his

> > rear paws, so I figure tomorrow I'll probably load him up and take him

> > to the vet as it looks red and very painful. I take it this is the

> > beginning of the end, isn't it? Arrgh........I'm such a sucker! :-) We

> > never stood a chance, did we? My husband doesn't mind him sticking

> > around as long as he remains an outdoor only cat...and that is a huge

> > commitment for a man who says he doesn't want any more animals at all.

> > The sage continues...

> >

> >

> > Also, I heard from Janice, Tony's wife, today...Easter greetings and to

> > let us know she continues to miss him but is doing okay. :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

> >

> > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."

> > --Albert Einstein

> >

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