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Re: Re: shade/bog gardening

Sounds like a dry (most of the time) stream bed to redirect the water or
a French drain might be the way to go. Especially since the neighbor
sounds like a severe jerk. I have my beds placed and bricked in to
redirect and dissipate the very occasional run off that flows through my

Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Melody
Sent: 4/25/2004 11:12:37 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] shade/bog  gardening

> Kitty: Thanks for the suggestions, but my friend has small children so
> drywells would probably not be something he'd go for...as well as the
> danger to his dog. I'm thinking too, that a rainbarrel for water
> collection might be a good alternative...right now he has drainage hose
> snaking across a walkway in his yard to the corner and it represents a
> nice trip hazard for the kids, too...so getting rid of it would be
> great! The water doesn't actually stand too long, a few hours maybe, but
> the problem is that it runs through his yard and down a short slope to
> his neighbors yard and the neighbor isn't terribly understanding about
> it...frequently tresspasses into Steve's yard to kick the drainage pipe
> over into the middle of the yard...so it's obviously a point of
> contention that needs to be addressed. As for the lilacs...they are the
> shaders not the shadees, if you know what I mean. All of them in excess
> of 10 feet high and about 6-8 feet wide through the crown, planted
> closely together in a row to form a nice dense area of shade underneath
> their collective canopy, but all the tallest trees in their area so
> receive plenty of sunlight...other trees on/near the property that are
> much more massive but are far enough away to not prevent sun.
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Fri 04/23, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:52:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] shade/bog  gardening
> Melody,<br>I don't know anything about bogs - Marge or others will reply
> on that.<br>When you say the area floods, how long does the water stand?
> I had a<br>problem like that, with no place to run the water to. So
> instead of a bog,<br>I dug a drywell - actually 2 of them, one at each
> back corner of the house<br>where the downspouts release. They are about
> 4x4x4 ft. One is filled with<br>broken pots and rebar, the other with a
> coiled, flexible drainage hose.<br>These handle the water until it can
> be dispersed by natural drainage.<br><br>I'm curious - how do lilacs
> survive in a heavily shaded area?<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original
> Message ----- <br>From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:06
> AM<br>Subject: [CHAT] shade/bog gardening<br><br><br>> Dear all: I need
> help for a friend's yard...It is his mother's house<br>> which now that
> she has retired and moved south, he has<br>> "inherited"...with one
> giant problem...Mom was a huge gardener and he is<br>> not. So now he is
> faced with the upkeep of an extensive shade garden<br>> collection that
> he neither knows nor really cares about, but to keep his<br>> mom happy
> when she visits every so often, he would like to do something<br>> with
> it while simplifying the work. She was really into hostas in a big<br>>
> way and they are everywhere. Also tons and tons of lily of the
> valley<br>> that are spreading like wildfire, even where he doesn't want
> them<br>> (Kitty...who knew? Sorry!) So, I've agreed to help him revamp
> all of<br>> those things, but our biggest problem proves to be one of
> drainage...he<br>> has an area in his yard to which he runs a drainage
> pipe for rainwater<br>> from his roof that in heavy rains, runs across
> his yard and floods his<br>> neighbors yard in the corner where the two
> meet...It's a heavily shaded<br>> area that contains mostly a beautiful
> collection of lilac trees, a few<br>> hosta and lily of the
> valley...would the creation of a boggy area there<br>> with cinder block
> and plastic l
> iner a) be enough to contain the water so<br>> it doesn't flood the
> neighbors and b) be damaging to the lilacs in any<br>> way? Also, what
> would one put in a boggy area like that?<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA
> (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
> mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>>
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