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Re: Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?

Kitty, I just bought three of those from Lowe's. I'll have to look up the cultivar, but I planted them next to the Black & Blue salvia. I think they are beautiful.
zone 7
West TN
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?

Here's a pic of Osteospermum Symphony Vanilla - I think this is the one I
Here's another called O. Tradewinds Expt White & Blue
You mentioned yours was a new variety, so it may look a little different.
In my experience these are thirsty plants even though they have thick
leaves. I propagate by just pinching off a short cutting, stripping the
bottom leaves, dip in rooting hormone, and inserting into a moist
perlite/vermiculite mix in a sweater box. The first time I tried I made the
cuttings too long and the tips browned out. Then I saw someone in a nursery
doing it with just the tips, so I tried it and they root nicely in 2-3
weeks. If you do this in fall, the little cuttings will be full size plants
by April, just remember to pinch to encourage branching. The first year I
brought the whole large plant in in the fall, about 18 in by 18 in and cut
it back a bit. When I planted it out the next spring, by fall it grew to a
mammoth 3 ft x 3 ft. That's when I realized cuttings would be the smarter
way to go.

Here's a propagation/cultivation sheet on Osteospermum, but it is written
more from a nursery's point of view:

I also found the following re their water needs:
"To grow flourishing Osteospermums, it is imperative that they are given a
very free-draining situation; they have little tolerance for continuously
damp or saturated soil. Their native, mountainous habitat is a good
indicator of the conditions to which they have successfully adapted. In
Cumbria, they thrive in containers and raised beds, but if grown in a
border, it is a good idea to break up the soil before planting and add some
handfuls of grit to ensure they have the best chance of survival."

neIN, Z5

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?

I did mention it to the committee last year, but I live in Washington
Township and not in Centerville proper.  Since it is put on by
City Beautiful," I don't think my comments count for much, though I can
throw a rock and hit the Centerville city limit sign from my property.
There are only about 4 people who put the show on, too, so maybe they
have the staff to fend folks off and make them turn in the tickets. (Yes,
they did give out tickets like last year.) I took 32 plants and brought
back (and gave most to Rayna) 20 plants and there were only 5 plants
lambs ear, which I have scads of.)  At least the "leftovers" will go into
community garden somewhere. I would have gone only for the talk this year
if daughter Rayna wasn't in need of some very common plants on a tight
budget. It irritates me that folks act like that, but I figure in the
run, some time, some where, they will have that same treatment returned to
them and I don't have to do anything or even know it happened.

The talk was good and I did enjoy being with "plant people" for a couple
hours. YEAH!!! I didn't have to worry that folks would think I talked
gibberish if I said a botanical name instead of a local common name.

I did miss seeing Wendy Swope at the swap. I haven't heard from her since
her mother-in-law died and my e-mails did not go through to her old

And what I received must be the African daisy you described. It really is
quite a lovely thing, isn't it? It must be considered an annual here too.
How do I start more of these beautiful daisies? Thanks for the I.D.!
got the pot in the shower, soaking it right now.  Mary didn't water them
the pots wouldn't be so heavy they couldn't be carried.  It will probably
a week or more before I can set that gem outdoors! It really is quite
lovely and already has it's fertilizer and great potting soil and I didn't
even have to get my hands dirty!

Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Of Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:31 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?

Hi Bonnie,
I remember you had the same complaint about this swap last year. Have you
voiced your objection to someone who could do something about it? I'm
glad you won the door prize though, sort of an award for your patience and
endurance with the pushy crowd.

Re > new variety of annual daisy (no name that I could find) with a blue
Is it an African Daisy? Osteospermum,(also some other names) I have a
lovely pristine white one with a blue center that I carry over year to
They sell them as annuals here, but they are so vigorous and unbelievably
easy to grow from cuttings.  I've often seen these used in potted
arrangements, so I thought this might be what you have.

Re > as usual, more people took plants than brought them.
I've never been to a swap; can you explain?  A swap indicates to me a 1:1
exchange.  I seem to remember your saying that you received tickets for
plants you brought.  You could hand one in for each plant.  I could
understand that you might not use all your tickets if there was nothing
that you really wanted to take home.  But how do people take MORE plants
than they brought?  Without tickets, how do they get the plants?

I don't think I should ever attempt to go to a plant swap.  I don't have
your temperment.  I couldn't bring myself to take plants that weren't
properly potted in good soil with fertilizer, properly named and
by a photo, and looking perky and happy (the flowers - I'm not
perky anytime).  I f I did all that and then was faced with the
crowd you describe, I wouldn't do it again. I'd just attend the talk.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...I won?

> I'm not quite far enough South. We could get up to two inches of snow
> grassy surfaces (and garden areas) by morning.  Low should be around 29
> tonight.  I'm glad Bill helped me get the tree rose, magnolia tree and
> not yet acclimated pots into the garage.
> As for the plant swap, well, I got plants for daughter Rayna mostly.
> still needs some black-eyed Susan's and she got some sun-drops, some > day
> lilies, some monarda, false dead nettle and a periwinkle. As for me, > as
> usual, more people took plants than brought them. I still ended up > with
> nice pot that looks like some variety of geranium--no tag and a canna > to
> into a pot for the front of the driveway. There were folks that came > in
> over halfway through the talks who stood in the back of the room next > to
> where the plants were put that as soon as the talk was over, just > turned
> around and scooped the really nice plants up. I do wish they would
> it differently! Of such is life.
> Mary Higgins (well known in the area for her flowering pots) was there
> demonstrate how she arranges plants in pots with the usual do's &
> In any case, at the end of the presentation, there were 4 large pots
> with wonderful annuals.  I won one of them as a door prize.  It has
> blue salvia, bacopa, a variegated ageratum & purple alyssum, as well as
> new variety of annual daisy (no name that I could find) with a blue
> It is very pretty and I was glad someone brought a trash bag or two so > I
> could cover it long enough to get it home. I'm not the type to win
> so I'm wondering if I should go buy a lottery ticket now? Hmmm. I've
> probably used up all this year's luck anyway.
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5) Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> Of Donna
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:23 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Hmmm...Weather...Plant Swap...
> Have a great time at the plant swap, let us know what treasures you get
> Wish you had better weather for it... heard that you are in for a > winter
> storm.... UCK! Although you might be south enough to miss
> Donna
> Where it is cold, but not snowing.....
> >
> > It is spitting snow here amongst the rain drops.  It's 37 degrees
> > so
> > nothing has frozen or frosted yet.  What a miserable day to walk 5
> > Of
> > such is life.
> >
> > Today is the annual Centerville garden seminar and plant swap.  I've
> > got three flats of plants to take in for the swap because of work,
> > and other obligations, not to mention the weather.  I decided not to
> > so
> > much in pots this year as I ran out of them last year. I put a > > number
> > smaller division in plastic baggies with their soil. At least it is
> > neatly
> > contained. I know I'll get things at the swap that are freshly dug
> > box lids and grocery bags without soil. There is so much more I > > could
> > take
> > if I had the time to dig it out. Maybe I'll have a yard/plant sale
> > get the rest out and potted up.
> >
> > I've got to get plant labels made up!  Everyone have a fabulous day!
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Bonnie
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