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Re: Re: Camellias and tea


Hibiscus is such a huge conglomeration of plants. Hibiscus tea is made from the fried flowers of either--I'm not sure which--of H. sabdariffa [true roselle] or H. acetosella [false roselle]. I've heard both, so maybe both, or either, or neither. When I first moved down here, I grew false roselle because the leaves are a nice salad green [actually purple]. When I acquired some Mexican friends and they saw the plants, they asked if they could have the flowers to make tea, which they told me was a popular drink at home [Mexico]. On the other hand, I've heard--and I forget where--that one of the primary ingredients of Red Zinger is the dried flowers of the true roselle.

On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:04 PM, David Franzman wrote:

yeah, but funny how hard it is for some to find hibiscus tea. I used to have people ask me about that all of the time.

DF



----- Original Message ----
From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 5:50:47 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Camellias and tea

Certainly one of the most ubiquitous if not one of the biggest. Also, I
think, more interesting selections than the rest, except maybe
Twinings.

On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:36 PM, David Franzman wrote:

Yeah, Bigelow is very big here too.  Has to be one of the biggest in
the U.S. don't you think?

DF



----- Original Message ----
From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 5:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Camellias and tea

Bigelow, eh... they've certainly got a good marketing operation. I'll
have to look for the product. Thanks.

On Apr 6, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:

I'm not really sure Jim. It's on Wadmalaw Island in Charleston
County-about 25 miles from the city. We can buy the tea in the stores
here. It's called American Classic Tea. The link below is to the
website-shows some of the plantation, products, etc.

http://www.bigelowtea.com/act/

----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
<islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Camellias and tea


Any idea how big that tea farm is, Andrea?

On Apr 6, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:

That would be correct. Charleston, SC. And who knew? The tea thrown
overboard at the Boston Tea Party was made from C. sinensis.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter"
<cathy.c@insightbb.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Camellias and tea


I understand that the only tea grown commercially in the US is in a
southern atlantic state - south carolina???

Cathy, west central IL, z5b

On Apr 5, 2008, at 10:00 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:

Yes-tea comes from Camellia sinensis. They originate from China
and
the first tea was made in the 6th century bc. I know this because
I'm writing my last paper on propagating camellia japonica and
sasanqua. Been researching their history.

Jim-they grow quite well in the Pacific northwest as far as I can
tell. I'm amassing quite a collection of japonica and sasanqua as
they are two of my most favorite plants in the world. There's a
tea
farm right outside of Charleston that I'd like to visit
someday-just
haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm almost done with my paper if
anyone wants to read it when it's done. There many great books out there on all species of Camellia for those who want their own tea.
A

----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
<islandjim1@verizon.net

To: "Garden Chat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: [CHAT] Summertime...


and the livin' is easy. Maybe. But whatever. It seems to have
suddenly arrived, easy or not. It's been in the low 80s for a
week
or so and the forecast is for it to remain so for the foreseeable
future. Lots of stuff is blooming, but there always is here--
orchids, begonias, petrea, jatropha, on and on.

I just saw an interview with the guy that established the Honest
T
company. It raised a question for me--since tea is the dried leaf
of a camellia species, I wonder if I'll be able to grow one in
Oregon. I tried here a couple of times and couldn't, too warm.
Might be fun to really do it.


Island Jim
Southwest Florida
27.1 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Sunset Zone 25
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]

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