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Re: [CHAT [Russian Sage]

Russian sage does like sun darlin'! And the less you to for it or to it,
the better it likes it. Mine get little supplemental water even this
time of year, very xeriscape stuff. No fertilizer, nothing. I had a tree
fall on one year before last and it kept growing, just kinda smooshed
and crooked the rest of that year. Mine's in barely amended clay, what
do you have for soil??

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "fm4re" <fm4re@swbell.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sat, 9 Aug 2003 08:56:20 -0500

>Okay!  seems I'm really chatty today!  But, I just planted 4 Russian sages
>this spring - they were about 4 inches tall.  I think that I lost one and
>the others aren't doing so well.  Maybe it's the bed - too much shade
>throughout the day and too nice soil (it's a new bed this spring).  Maybe
>it's the saying about perennials - something to the effect about sleeping
>and creeping - I forget it exactly.  I kinda pay attention to Pam's
>successes since she is in more similar terrain for me.  BUT, I have so much
>shade and partial shade for such heat!!!  Fran, OKC
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [Russian Sage-Wendy
>Wendy - good to hear from you! Sunny Border Blue veronica is great. Even
>survives our droughts and my amended clay. Never had problems w/ Russian
>sage spreading, but mine (3 plants)is in xeriscape beds that only get
>watered once a month. No supplemental rain here for months in the
>Maybe that's the difference.
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date:  Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:15:10 -0500
>>> Russian Sage has also been spreading into areas where it isn't wanted.
>>Mine is also getting carried away, but whenever I've tried digging it out
>>spring, I seem to lose more than I save.  Can I dig it while in bloom?  It
>>seems to grow by runners, but does it also have a deeper root I may not be
>>getting?  I want it out of there, but don't want to destroy it in the
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <wendyswope@mindspring.com>
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:12 PM
>>Subject: [CHAT] Fw: Emerging from Lurk--Wendy
>>> Hello from SW Ohio, Group!
>>> Since I see recent conversations about folks wanting lurkers to emerge,
>>> I'm here with a little news about my garden.
>>> But first, my reasons for lurking oh so very quietly:  Hard drive crash,
>>> with all-too-busy husband (household computer guru) insisting that he
>>> be the one to handle returning the CPU to the mfr. and setting up the
>>> repaired/replaced machine.  The crash happened months ago, the old CPU
>>> been shipped back, and I am  now using either a computer in the public
>>> or hubby's Linux-based home computer (only hooked to the Web a few days
>>> ago) to do an occasional mail check.  Can't really keep up with any of my
>>> chat groups or forums using current resources, which is driving me
>>> As my neighbor Bonnie has probably written, we've had a very wet summer
>>> compared to our usual, but since I can reach into my beds without walking
>>> them, the moist soil has been a blessing with all the weeds I've had to
>>> pull.  I grow perennials, normally well mulched perennials, but this
>>spring, I
>>> didn't replace my mulch, and have been playing catch-up ever since.  What
>>> a mess!  <wry grin> This has been the Summer of the Weed for me.  My
>>> Russian Sage has also been spreading into areas where it isn't wanted.  I
>>> a Weedstick for selectively apply herbicide in tight spots, but have yet
>>> get organized and try it out.
>>> Every spring, I add several flats of plants to the landscape.  This year,
>>> I added Antennaria tomentosa (pussytoes) for a tough, mat-forming
>>> groundcover in dry soil and full sun.  Visitors arrived to enjoy it two
>>weeks ago:
>>> I found one or two American Painted Lady caterpillars on each plant,
>>> handsome little devils with black bands alternating with yellow and white
>>> two white eyes on each black band, and two soft black hairs sticking out
>>> red spots on the black bands.  I'm a nature nut, so I liked watching them
>>> eat and let them stay, even though I expected they'd munch my new plants
>>> down to nothing.  Surprise!  They didn't!  In a week to 10 days, every
>>> caterpillar had disappeared, and I still had healthy Antennaria.  I
>>imagine the
>>> birds ate my fuzzy little guests?  Does the Painted Lady ever overwinter
>>> this far north?
>>> Other plants I added this year, besides "caterpillar casserole",  include
>>> Heuchera "Mint Frost", Prunella "Pink Loveliness" (another tough
>>> groundcover), Veronicas "Goodness Grows" and "Sunny Border Blue", and two
>>> climbing roses, "Handel" (gorgeous all-season bicolor, double blooms of
>>> with strawberry pink edges) and "The Impressionist" (remontant, double
>>> blooms that are rich yellow through the summer and turn orange in the
>>> <drool!>).  So far, all seem to be doing well.  I start with small plants
>>> nursery catalogs to keep my costs down, so the success or failure of this
>>> year's additions will be easier to judge in the coming spring.
>>> I have two, two-year-old own-root shrub roses that are failing miserably
>>> this summer, "Scentimental". a fragrant, striped burgundy-and-cream rose,
>>> and "The Victorian Lady", a brown-mauve rose.  As I always give my roses
>>> same rich, well-drained soil and regular watering to start with, I can
>>> blame either the varieties or the weather.  Anybody had experience with
>>> roses that they'd care to share?   How about striped roses to compare to
>>> "Scentimental"?
>>> Well, you folks wouldn't believe what my husband's home office is like to
>>> try to work in, but let's just say it's a little messy.  I have the
>>> keyboard balanced on my lap because there's nowhere else to put it, and
>>> and both hands are cramping <VBG>!  So I have to go now, but if anyone
>>> to talk to me, please put my name in the subject line, and that will
>>> guarantee I'll read the post in full next time I'm online.
>>> Sorry for not holding up my end of the conversation.  I love this group
>>> and will certainly try to be a little more present.
>>> Greenly yours,
>>> Wendy
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>Pam Evans
>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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