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RE: now chemical contaminants

Good grief that is scary.  I also recently learned that the FDA does not use
the EPA's guidelines for various substance when they determine if foods are
safe to eat.  So, for example, the EPA dictates a specific level of PCBs
that can be in wild Salmon in order for it to be sold/ingested.  However,
the FDA permits levels many times higher in farmed Salmon.  Does this make
any sense??  Apparently the food pellets fed to farmed salmon have a high
PCB level in them.  Great!  I can eat wild Salmon (at least until there are
none anymore), but what about the waterways the farm-raised ones are in, and
the poor people who feed them (likely with bare hands) and process them.

I wonder how many other things we eat have these different standards


P.S.  Aren;t perchlorates also the stuff from drycleaning? or am I thinking
of something else?

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:07 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc now chemical contaminants

How horrible!  Please be careful and keep us posted!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Wed, 13 Aug 2003 05:43:15 -0400 (EDT)

>Nora: I agree with you that there are some very scary things going on
>out there...in the past week the EPA disclosed in a public town meeting
>with our little bitty tiny town that our groundwater supply is
>contaminated with perchlorates (a by-product of rocket fuel and
>fertilizer production) and that it is not safe for anyone in town to
>ingest it without further testing...and since we are all on private
>wells or sandpoints (more shallow form of well) as opposed to a
>municipal water service, this testing could take a while. No real
>answers forthcoming about initial source of the contamination or how
>soon we can proceed to just cleaning it up (or where the funding for
>such an massive undertaking is going to come from)...it's been a very
>frustrating week...sigh!!
>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
>--Albert Einstein
> --- On Sun 08/10, Ray & Nora Edwards < raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net >
>From: Ray & Nora Edwards [mailto: raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net]
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:36:54 -0700
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc
>I will have to check that one out - thanks Gene. First I have to get
>over<br>reading about all the chemical dumping in eastern WA. that was
>supposed to<br>be good for the soil. There are some scary things going
>on.<br><br>Nora<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Gene Bush"
><genebush@otherside.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Saturday,
>August 09, 2003 4:35 AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies,
>etc<br><br><br>> If you want to be entertained and have your blood
>chilled, read "Oryx and<br>> Crake" by Margaret Atwood of The Handmaid's
>Tale fame. GE taken to the<br>> future.<br>> Gene E. Bush<br>> Munchkin
>Nursery & Gardens, llc<br>> www.munchkinnursery.com<br>>
>genebush@munchkinnursery.com<br>> Zone 6/5 Southern Indiana<br>><br>>
>----- Original Message -----<br>> > Do you live near crop areas? I f so
>,I would put my money on genetic<br>> > engineered crops. Things like
>B.T. in corn crops will be impacting<br>> > butterflies for some time I
>think.<br>> > I read a watch dog report in OG recently that referred to
>a report from<br>a<br>> > former FDA official who said that they are ill
>prepared to monitor<br>> > Monsanto's GE crops. Currently they are
>testing plants that are<br>engineered<br>> > to produce pharmaceuticals.
>Corn spliced with pig vaccine strayed into<br>soy<br>> > bean crops
>meant for humans. For the lapse they were fined $250,000 then<br>> >
>they were given 3.5 Million interest free from the federal government
>.<br>> That<br>> > should teach them! We should all be worried about
>this.<br>> ><br>> > Nora<br>><br>>
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