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Re: butterflies, etc now chemical contaminants

Melody - Sounds like incredibly faulty reasoning! And typical government
double-talk. Ugh. And Nora, please do keep us posted. How dreadful!!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:49:30 -0400 (EDT)

>Nora: What is an N.A.C? But irregardless, how frightening that situation
>sounds...my prayers go out to his family and friends that all will be
>okay. As for our water problem, right now we are all supposed to refrain
>from ingesting it, so bottled water is the answer for right now, even
>for our pets if one wants to go that route. We can't even cook in the
>stuff from our taps. Supposedly it is safe for dishwashing but I'm not
>sure how they can say we can wash our dishes in it that we eat off but
>we can't eat/drink it? Does that sound like faulty reasoning??
>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
>--Albert Einstein
> --- On Thu 08/14, Ray & Nora Edwards < raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
>From: Ray & Nora Edwards [mailto: raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net]
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:41:45 -0700
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc now chemical contaminants
>Scary! but very believable. It's been a strange week for me also. One of
>the<br>nicest ,most competent, reliable N.A.C.s just vanished. We are
>all sick<br>about it. His roommate came home and found the dog in the
>house. Ken always<br>took the dog to his moms house before work. He's
>very good with people and<br>animals. He didn't show up for work or
>call( not like him at all) . Now we<br>are getting posters out and I'm
>afraid the out come will not be good. It's<br>scary out there lately. If
>it's not environmental pollution done knowingly<br>for profit, its
>potential predators.<br><br> What do you do for
>water?<br><br>Nora<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Melody"
><mhobertm@excite.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Wednesday,
>August 13, 2003 2:43 AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc now
>chemical contaminants<br><br><br>> Nora: I agree with you that there are
>some very scary things going on<br>> out there...in the past week the
>EPA disclosed in a public town meeting<br>> with our little bitty tiny
>town that our groundwater supply is<br>> contaminated with perchlorates
>(a by-product of rocket fuel and<br>> fertilizer production) and that it
>is not safe for anyone in town to<br>> ingest it without further
>testing...and since we are all on private<br>> wells or sandpoints (more
>shallow form of well) as opposed to a<br>> municipal water service, this
>testing could take a while. No real<br>> answers forthcoming about
>initial source of the contamination or how<br>> soon we can proceed to
>just cleaning it up (or where the funding for<br>> such an massive
>undertaking is going to come from)...it's been a very<br>> frustrating
>week...sigh!!<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most
>beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>> --Albert
>Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Sun 08/10, Ray & Nora Edwards <
>raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net ><br>wrote:<br>> From: Ray & Nora
>Edwards [mailto: raynora.edwards@worldnet.att.net]<br>> To:
>gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:36:54
>-0700<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies, etc<br>><br>> I will have to
>check that one out - thanks Gene. First I have to get<br>>
>over<br>reading about all the chemical dumping in eastern WA. that
>was<br>> supposed to<br>be good for the soil. There are some scary
>things going<br>> on.<br><br>Nora<br>----- Original Message
>-----<br>From: "Gene Bush"<br>> <genebush@otherside.com><br>To:
><gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Saturday,<br>> August 09, 2003 4:35
>AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] butterflies,<br>> etc<br><br><br>> If you want
>to be entertained and have your blood<br>> chilled, read "Oryx and<br>>
>Crake" by Margaret Atwood of The Handmaid's<br>> Tale fame. GE taken to
>the<br>> future.<br>> Gene E. Bush<br>> Munchkin<br>> Nursery & Gardens,
>llc<br>> www.munchkinnursery.com<br>><br>>
>genebush@munchkinnursery.com<br>> Zone 6/5 Southern
>Indiana<br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> > Do you live
>near crop areas? I f so<br>> ,I would put my money on genetic<br>> >
>engineered crops. Things like<br>> B.T. in corn crops will be
>impacting<br>> > butterflies for some time I<br>> think.<br>> > I read a
>watch dog report in OG recently that referred to<br>> a report
>from<br>a<br>> > former FDA official who said that they are ill<br>>
>prepared to monitor<br>> > Monsanto's GE crops. Currently they are<br>>
>testing plants that are<br>engineered<br>> > to produce
>pharmaceuticals.<br>> Corn spliced with pig vaccine strayed
>into<br>soy<br>> > bean crops<br>> meant for humans. For the lapse they
>were fined $250,000 then<br>> ><br>> they were given 3.5 Million
>interest free from the federal government<br>> .<br>> That<br>> > should
>teach them! We should all be worried about<br>> this.<br>> ><br>> >
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