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Re: Peony question

Forget peonies here in 8A, they can't stand the summers or clay soil.  C'est la vie!


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: TeichFlora@aol.com
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:22:49 EST

>May I add that "warmer climates" does not mean zones 9 and 10.  None of the 
>warmer climate peonies have been reported to grow anywhere south of zone 8 
>here in Texas, anyway, and even zone 8b has serious problems with them.  
>Apparently our cold spells aren't long or cold enough for them.
>zone 9
>Texas Gulf Coast
>In a message dated 12/13/2002 12:39:30 AM Central Standard Time, 
>mtalt@hort.net writes:
>> You're welcome, Theresa.  Since you're in an area that probably
>> doesn't get cold enough for many, I did a quick scan through my saved
>> Peony-list files and here are some that are recommended for hot
>> climates...all say it's best to go for the early flowering types and
>> singles will do better than the really blowzy marvelous doubles that
>> we all think of when we think 'peony'.  Also consensus is that in the
>> south they need part shade (morning sun; afternoon shade is best),
>> good, organically enriched soil and additional watering - of course,
>> good drainage is a must.
>> 'Festiva Maxima' - mentioned in many posts as growing and flowering
>> well in the south..it does fine for me and it gets hot here too quick
>> for the late flowering bomb types as a rule and they just blast apart
>> (of course, we have our first major downpours just as soon as the
>> peonies open).
>> 'Charm'
>> 'Paul Fay'
>> 'Pillow Talk'
>> 'Shirley Temple'
>> lactifloras:
>> 'Kelway's Glorious'
>> 'Kansas'
>> 'Moonstone'
>> 'Chief Wapalo'
>> 'Shawnee Chief'
>> all other types:
>> 'Coral Charm'
>> 'Laddie'
>> 'Yin Xian Xiu Hong Pao'
>> Mediterranean species - not hardy in the north:
>> Tree peonies:
>> The delavayi complex
>> P. cambessdessica (which may be sorta tricky)
>> P. russi 
>> P. emodi 
>> P. coriacea 
>> P. clusii
>> P. rhodia
>> P.turcica
>> P. parnassica
>> P. cambessedesii 
>> APS Bulletin reports of of herbaceous peonies being grown in
>> Shreveport, Louisiana;
>> Louisville, Kentucky; and Cordova, Alabama.  Also in the geographical
>> centre of Georgia.
>> Don't know the USDA zones for these areas.   Varieties these authors
>> recommend are:
>> 'Pico
>> 'Sea Shell
>> 'Sparkling Star
>> 'Bu-te
>> 'Westerner
>> 'Gay Paree
>> 'White Cap
>> 'Miss America
>> 'Mons. Jules Elie
>> 'Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt
>> Edulis superba and hybrids 'Red Charm', 'Lovely Rose', 'Cytherea, and
>> 'Firelight.  
>> It was suggested that most tree peonies would do okay.
>> P. broteroi 
>> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> mtalt@hort.net
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