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Re: Orchids for the northern USA

Aplectrum hyemale  Zone 3
Various Bletilla species and hybrids, some can handle as cold conditions as
zone 4
Calopogon tuberosus x Cpg. multiflorus zone 3
Calypso bulbosa Zone 4
Spiranthes cernua odorata Chadds Ford
Orchis purpurea Zone 5
Orchis spectabilis Zone 4
Gymnadenia conopseaX Dactylorhiza fuchsii  zone 5
Dactylorhiza purpurella Northern Marsh Orchid  Zone 4
Dactylorhiza maculata Z3-4  (These wonderful hardy ground orchids are
currently widely planted throughout Europe. Initially the flower stalks are
short but as they get older the flower stalks get longer and fuller and the
flowers get larger. Mature plants are stunning. All sprout from a tuber and
multiply freely if the conditions are right. Most prefer humus-rich soil
with good drainage in full sun to light shade. )

BTW- these orchids are available commercially.  I'm looking into adding a
few orchis species to my collection.  As well as bulbyphyllum Phalaenopsis.

On a related note.  Cites (The convention on International Trade in
Endangenerd Species of Wild Fauna and Flora CITES (the Convention on
International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild http://www.cites.org/
has 53 Paphiopedilum species on it's
appendix I list for Malaysia. That means that you may not collect these
wild orchids for any reason, you may not collect the pollen pouch, the
flower, leaves, no roots or seeds. In the very late 90's much of the area
where these orchids grow in the wild has been literally buldouzed down to
make living space for the expanding local population. Despite the fact that
these orchids could have been saved via human intervention and lots of noise
was made about it, the Paphs remained on the CITES Appendix I list.

I'm trying to understand the lack of logic in this whole concept and it
drives me nuts not to be able to figure out why this is being done.

Does anyone understand this oddity, can someone explain to me why are these
orchids are allowed to be killed, when they can be easily saved?

NYC Brooklyn, Zone 6b

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Orchids for the northern USA

> Hello Donna,
>     In the past Ladyslippers gained a reputation for not surviving after
> transplanting for a variety of reasons. I think mostly from people digging
> and moving without understanding the root systems and needs of the plant.
> All perennials have needs, not just ladyslipper orchids. Perhaps not as
> critical in many cases, but there never the less. For instance, the Royal
> Ladyslipper does just fine when transplanted ... if it is moved to a boggy
> area. Move it to normal garden soil where it dries out, or had the wrong
> and it withers away. Yellow ladyslipers survive just fine when attention
> given to their needs. The so-called lesser orchids no one pays any
> to and some are in the trade. Orchids, both native and from Asia are now
> available from seed grown plants and tissue culture and yes, in general
> take transplanting better that a wild dug.
>     Pink ladyslipper can be quite tricky. Have friends who have managed
> one, however. Both here in the eastern US and in several European
> So.. can be accomplished.
>     Gene E. Bush

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