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Re: Re: What are you reading/cats NOW deer NOW dogs

Is there anything we can do?  Any emails we can send or other outside
agencies we could bring into the fray?  This is criminal stupidity and needs
to be stopped, at least to grandfather the lives of these two obviously
beneficial animals.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: What are you reading/cats NOW deer

> My Yorkie is a bigger threat than my great big dogs ever have been...has
> the killer instincts of a wild beast, that little guy does...he is the
> real guard dog of our house. IMO, it is lack of socialization and proper
> training combined with an individual dog's personal temperament that
> should be looked at...any law that attempts to outlaw anything based
> solely on one characteristic (i.e. a specific breed of dog) is
> stupid...vicious dog laws aimed at behavior of individual animals make
> much more sense. I hope those two gentlemen with their loving animals
> are allowed to keep their pets, Kitty...keep us posted.
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Thu 12/04, Jesse Bell < jesserenebell@hotmail.com > wrote:
> From: Jesse Bell [mailto: jesserenebell@hotmail.com]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:43:49 -0600
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: What are you reading/cats NOW deer
> That's crazy. Then they need to outlaw about half the dog breeds out
> there. <br> Cocker Spaniels are on the number one worst list for biting.
> What about <br>pit bulls (my stepson has two that are gentle giants).
> I've said it <br>before...and I'll say it again.....PEOPLE ARE
> STUPID.<br><br><br><br><br><br>>From: "Kitty"
> <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: What are you
> reading/cats NOW deer<br>>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:57:10 -0500<br>><br>>
> > I wish more people would go out and save a wonderful<br>> >
> creature<br>><br>>Another story to share. Our City Council passed new
> laws concerning <br>>animals<br>>in the city limits. No home can have
> more than 5 dogs or 7 cats ot 7 total<br>>combination. Then they
> declared all exotic animals banned. This includes<br>>dogs that are any
> part wolf.<br>><br>>A local 78 yr old man rescued a big white dog that
> was being neglected. <br>>His<br>>wife had died and then his dog died
> and he had no one until he rescued <br>>Lady.<br>>He's had her 4 yrs now
> and the neighbor kids love her. The man takes her <br>>to<br>>nursing
> homes for people to pet and for those who can, they take her
> for<br>>walks around the parking lot. A couple of yrs ago when Lady got
> her shots,<br>>the vet wrote down that she was half malmute, half wolf.
> The city now<br>>insists that if he doesn't get rid of her by the end of
> the week, she'll be<br>>put to sleep. He said they can just put him down
> then too. Another <br>>elderly<br>>couple - the man on disability, the
> woman w/ MS, have been told they have <br>>to<br>>lose their part wolf
> pet too.<br>><br>>This has the town in an uproar. Petitions are being
> signed, letters to the<br>>editor are being written (I've done both) Now
> the Council has been forced<br>>to call an emergency session next week
> to discuss it, but it doesn't look<br>>promising. Personally, I know
> poodles that pose more threat than these 2<br>>dogs. Yes, some may pose
> a problem, but this zero tolerance stuf
> f is just<br>>too rigid.<br>><br>>Kitty<br>><br>>----- Original Message
> -----<br>>From: <Zemuly@aol.com><br>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>>Sent:
> Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:21 PM<br>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: What
> are you reading/cats NOW deer<br>><br>><br>> > In a message dated
> 12/3/2003 3:59:34 PM Central Standard Time,<br>> >
> jesserenebell@hotmail.com writes:<br>> > I wish more people would go out
> and save a wonderful<br>> > creature for Christmas. *sigh*<br>> > Me,
> too! I have noticed a new presence who told me his name was Clyde
> --<br>> > guess that means I'm up to 31. A while back I tried to get
> people <br>>around<br>>here to<br>> > donate some dry food for them, but
> only one person responded with a 7<br>>pound<br>> > bag. I use between
> 50 and 75 pounds of dry food per week. I have to<br>>share an<br>> >
> awesome experience my grandson and I had last Saturday. We arrived at
> <br>>my<br>>house<br>> > around dusk and were just getting out of the
> car when I hear a huge<br>>commotion<br>> > -- lots of running feet and
> grunting. I looked up to see a tiny buck<br>>(looked<br>> > like an
> 8-point) and about 8 tiny does running as fast as they could
> <br>>into<br>>the<br>> > church yard across the street. One of the does
> ran into the magnolia <br>>tree<br>> > there when she first saw us. They
> all stopped and looked at us (we were<br>>only<br>> > about 25 feet away
> from them), and, as if they recognized us, the does<br>>calmly<br>> >
> began to graze while the buck slowly walked to the edge of the woods
> <br>>where<br>>he<br>> > faded into invisibility. I'm sure they were
> running from the literally<br>>hundreds<br>> > of hunters in the woods
> just past the city limits. I am always shocked <br>>to<br>>see<br>> >
> just how small the deer in this area really are. They way they
> are<br>>described<br>> > under the kill shots in the paper ("Big Bad
> Bucks") always makes them<br>>sound<br>> > huge.<br>> ><br>> > zem<br>>
> > zone 7<br>> > West TN<br>> ><br>> >
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