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Re: OT: to my friends

55? You can't expect indoor workers to work in 55 degrees. I'd have to
wear a coat to sit at my desk in that temp. If it were constant
physically demanding work, though, I probably wouldn't mind 55 so much.
But then I would mind having to do constant physically demanding work

> Yeah...when I said the temperatures here plummet at night... I was
> talking like down to 55...say, isn't that usually the temperture in
> those caves that bears hibernate in ?
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Thu 12/18, Pamela J. Evans < gardenqueen@gbronline.com > wrote:
> From: Pamela J. Evans [mailto: gardenqueen@gbronline.com]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:39:20 -0600
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my friends
> I was talking about real hypothermia dear, like when I got stranded
> in<br>the mountains. Not in the office. And I'd love 77, that would be a
> heat<br>wave in this meat locker....<br><br><br>---------- Original
> Message ----------------------------------<br>From:
> kmrsy@comcast.net<br>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec
> 2003 15:33:51 +0000<br><br>>> As I recall getting sleepy is one of the
> first stages of<br>>> hypothermia.<br>><br>>Now, come on! This woman in
> my office is not going to get hypothermia<br>>because I lowered the temp
> in her office from 78 to 77. And even those<br>>of us who lower our
> temps at home at night (mine is 61 night 67 day - up<br>>to 70 if I do
> feel cold) to perhaps 60 are not going to get hypothermia<br>>from it.
> Yes, you get sleepy with hypothermia, but I can't imagine<br>>getting
> sleepy DURING THE WORKDAY because you're
> chilly.<br>><br>><br>>Conversely, at night WHEN I WANT TO SLEEP, I'm
> more comfortable in a<br>>cool environment. If I get too warm it will
> wake me up. So, now that it<br>>is dark outside in the morning so the
> natural brightening of the room<br>>doesn't wake me up, the steady
> warming of the room does as the the<br>>programmed thermostat brings it
> up to 67 degrees.<br>><br>><br>>It's not my intention to argue. How
> abbout a poll?<br>>During the workday, do you get sleepy if you are too
> warm or too cold?<br>><br>>Kitty<br>>> Me too Melody. As I recall
> getting sleepy is one of the first stages of<br>>> hypothermia. Got
> stranded in the mountains in PA (college days) in the<br>>> snow and did
> everything I could to stay awake. Knew if I succumbed to<br>>> sleep,
> I'd be a goner.<br>>> <br>>> <br>>> ---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------<br>>> From: "Melody"
> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>> Date:
> Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:03:49 -0500 (EST)<br>>> <br>>> >Kitty: You get
> sleepy when you get hot??? That's how I get when I am<br>>> >cold...very
> sleepy...and it is so difficult to regulate the temperature<br>>> >in
> such a la
> rge hospital as the one I work in...freezing or<br>>> >boiling...nothing
> in between.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> >Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>>>
> ><br>>> >"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> <br>>> >--Albert Einstein<br>>> ><br>>> > --- On Wed 12/17, Kitty <
> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>>> >From: Kitty [mailto:
> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>>> >To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>> >Date: Wed, 17
> Dec 2003 08:54:02 -0500<br>>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my
> friends<br>>> ><br>>> >> idiots here at work who like to run the air
> conditioner in<br>>> >December.<br><br>Well, Pam, you just described me,
> sort of. Our weather<br>>> >in neIN fluctuates<br>and althought today's
> high will only be the high<br>>> >20s with no sun, a week or<br>so ago
> it was low 50s and very sunny. When<br>>> >it is sunny and 50s our
> building<br>where I work absorbs that heat and<br>>> >the thermostat
> showed 78 degrees in the<br>front office where the only<br>>> >windows
> are. My office is in the center of the<br>building, no windows<br>>>
> >and I have 3 track lights bearing down on me with a hot<br>computer
> next<br>>> >to me, which all yields a temperature of about 82 degrees
> in<br>my<br>>> >office with no air circulation in the afternoon
> after<br>>> >lunch.<br><br>About 3pm I went to the front office and
> switched the air<br>>> >on for a few<br>minutes. As I walked away, the
> secretary got up and<br>>> >turned it back to<br>heat - which I knew she
> would, but didn't expect it<br>>> >that quickly. So I<br>turned back and
> switched it again. She started<br>>> >yelling that the heat<br>hadn't
> been running most of the day and I told<br>>> >her I had to have just
> a<br>little air circulation, just 5 minutes,<br>>> >please. She relented
> sullenly. I<br>did turn it off after 5 minutes. If<br>>> >the boss wants
> to pay me to sleep,<br>fine, cuz that's all he'll get<br>>> >from me in
> an 80+ degree office with no air<br>circulation.<br>-----<br>>>
> >Original Message ----- <br>From: "Pamela J. Evans"<br>>>
> ><gardenqueen@gbronline.com><br>To: <gardencha
> t@
> hort.net><br>Sent:<br>>> >Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:32
> AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my<br>>> >friends<br><br><br>> God love
> you child! I'm not anemic, my thermostat's<br>>> >just set a little<br>>
> higher than most. The joke here at work is they<br>>> >know it's over
> 80<br>> degrees when I take my jacket off. Anything under<br>>> >75 is
> uncomfortable<br>> and below 60 is sheer torture.<br>><br>> Most<br>>>
> >of the year, that works out just fine! It doesn't help that we
> have<br>><br>>> >idiots here at work who like to run the air conditioner
> in<br>>> >December.<br>> Bunch of homesick Eskimos if you ask
> me!!<br>><br>> Break<br>>> >out the hot chocolate and peach brandy
> -<br>>> ><br>>> >they'll keep you warm from<br>the inside in a pinch -
> LOL.<br>><br>><br>>> >back to work.....<br>><br>> ---------- Original
> Message<br>>> >----------------------------------<br>> From:
> "Melody"<br>>> ><mhobertm@excite.com><br>> Reply-To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Wed,<br>>> >17 Dec 2003 02:16:00 -0500
> (EST)<br>><br>> >Pam: Staying warm is not<br>>> >really an option for me
> at this time of<br>> >year...I get cold about<br>>> >mid-October and
> don't really warm up again until<br>> >July...that's the<br>>>
> >consequence of chronic anemia (it's a hereditary<br>> >thing, not
> an<br>>> >iron deficiency)...today it was in the low 20's but with<br>>
> >winds<br>>> >gusting in excess of 20 miles an hour, it brought the wind
> chill<br>><br>>> >>factor down to single digits...tough driving on the
> interstate too<br>>> >with<br>> >winds like that...but the silver lining
> is that it freeze<br>>> >dried all the<br>> >roads in just a few
> hours...it has been very<br>>> >rainy/drizzling here for a<br>> >couple
> of days and things were very wet<br>>> >and icy slick...but
> bitterly<br>> >cold winds did the trick and though<br>>> >we are cold,
> we are dry! So it is<br>> >safe to drive once again! Thanks<br>>> >for
> the kind words, though...the<br>> >thought is appreciated!
> :-)<br>><br>>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>> ><br>>
> >"The mos
> t<br>>> >beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>>
> >--Albert<br>>> >Einstein<br>> ><br>> > --- On Tue 12/16, Pamela J.
> Evans <<br>>> >gardenqueen@gbronline.com > wrote:<br>> >From: Pamela J.
> Evans [mailto:<br>>> >gardenqueen@gbronline.com]<br>> >To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>> >Date:<br>>> >Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:12:34
> -0600<br>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my<br>>> >friends<br>> ><br>>
> >Just read this again. It's so great!! Your<br>>> >friendship is a true
> jewel<br>> >in<br>my spiritual treasure chest. In<br>>> >that respect,
> I'm quite rich -<br>> >thanks to<br>friends like you!!<br>>> >Stay warm
> girl!<br><br><br>love ya -<br>> ><br><br>Pam<br><br>----------<br>>>
> >Original Message<br>>
> >----------------------------------<br>From:<br>>> >"Melody"<br>>
> ><mhobertm@excite.com><br>Reply-To:<br>>> >gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date:
> Mon, 15<br>> >Dec 2003 05:49:51 -0500<br>>> >(EST)<br><br>>Dear<br>>>
> ><br>>> >fr<br>>> >iends: This was sent to me<br>> >by my dearest friend
> in the whole world<br>>> >and I wanted to pass it on to<br>> >all of
> you...<br>><br>>Fwd: I think<br>>> >you will really like this, so
> make<br>> >sure you read all the way down<br>>> >to the last<br>>
> >sentence...enjoy<br>><br>>There once was a little girl<br>>> >who had a
> bad<br>> >temper. Her mother gave her a<br>>bag of nails and<br>>> >told
> her that every<br>> >time she lost her temper, she must<br>>hammer<br>>>
> >a nail into the back of<br>> >the fence. The first day the girl<br>>>
> >had<br>>driven 37 nails into the<br>> >fence. Over the next few
> weeks,<br>>> >as she learned<br>>to control her anger,<br>> >the number
> of nails<br>>> >hammered daily gradually<br>>dwindled down. She<br>>
> >discovered it was<br>>> >easier to hold her temper than to<br>>drive
> those<br>> >nails into the<br>>> >fence. Finally the day came when the
> girl<br>>didn't lose<br>> >her<br>>> >temper at all. She told her mother
> about it and the<br>>mother<br>><br>>> >>suggested that the girl now
> pull out one nail for each day<br>>> >that<br>>she<br>> >was able to
> hold her
> te
> mper. The days passed and the<br>>> >young girl<br>> >was<br>>finally
> able to tell her mother that all the<br>>> >nails were gone.<br>> >The
> mother<br>>took her daughter by the hand and<br>>> >led her to the
> fence.<br>> >She said, "You<br>>have done well, my<br>>> >daughter, but
> look at the holes in<br>> >the fence. The<br>>fence will<br>>> >never be
> the same. When you say things in<br>> >anger, they leave<br>>>
> >a<br>>scar just like this one. " You can put a knife<br>> >in a
> person<br>>> >and draw it<br>>out. It won't matter how many times you
> say<br>> >I'm<br>>> >sorry, the wound is<br>>still there. A verbal wound
> is as bad as a<br>><br>>> >>physical one.<br>><br>><br>>Friends are very
> rare jewels, indeed.<br>>> >They<br>> >make you smile and
> encourage<br>>you to succeed. They lend an<br>>> >ear, they<br>>
> >shar<br>> ><br>> >e words of praise and they<br>>always<br>>> >want to
> open their hearts to<br>> >us.<br>><br>><br>>Show your friends<br>>>
> >how much you care. Send this to<br>> >everyone you consider<br>>a<br>>>
> >FRIEND, even if it means sending it back to<br>> >the person who sent
> it<br>>> >to<br>>you. If it co<br>>> ><br>>> >mes back to you, then
> you'll<br>> >know you have a circle<br>>> >of<br>>friends. Happy
> Friendship week! You are my<br>> >friend and I am<br>>> >honored.
> Now<br>>send this to every friend you have!!<br>> >And to your<br>>>
> >family. Please forgive<br>>me if I have ever left a hole in<br>><br>>>
> >>your<br>><br>>fence.<br>><br>><br>><br>>Melody<br>><br>>______________________
> <br>>>
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