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Re: Holiday Food NOW milk


Lots of stuff is totally organic, doesn't necessarily equate with tasty.
Still, you are talking about "Cheese, glorious Cheese", as they say in the
commercials.  But I would guess they've made some improvements in the
process since the camel-stomach days.
Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Holiday Food NOW milk


> I don't necessarily think of milk forming curds and whey as spoiling.
> It is, after all, totally organic.
>
> On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 05:36 PM, Pamela J. Evans wrote:
>
> > Gee that does sound tasty. Seriously, maybe Northern Europe was the
> > only
> > place w/ a cool enough climate that milk didn't spoil in 15 1/2
> > seconds.
> > Anywhere warm, you have to drink it fresh squeezed as it were, or it
> > would spoil. Reckon?
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Date:  Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:51:13 -0500
> >
> >> Oh, yummy.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:25 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Holiday Food NOW milk
> >>
> >>
> >>> USDA says cheese making originated in the Middle East. Travelers
> >>> toting
> >>> milk in skins made from the stomachs of camels. Residual rennet in
> >>> the
> >>> stomach curdled the milk.
> >>>
> >>> On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 12:38 PM, cathy carpenter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Quite frankly, I don't know, and I don't know if any studies have
> >>>> been
> >>>> done. Your theory makes a lot of sense, though. Milk (of any sort)
> >>>> is
> >>>> food for babies of whatever species, so after weaning, most have no
> >>>> exposure to it. It may be that only in Northern Europe did peoples
> >>>> exploit unmodified milk as a food source beyond infancy.
> >>>> Cathy
> >>>> On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 12:44 AM, Melody wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Cathy: Why do you suppose this milk intolerance exists in these
> >>>>> other
> >>>>> populations? Is it because once they are weaned from mother's milk,
> >>>>> there isn't a steady supply of it...so they rapidly lose whatever
> >>>>> tolerance they have to lactose?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> >>>>> --Albert Einstein
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  --- On Tue 12/30, cathy carpenter < cathyc@rnet.com > wrote:
> >>>>> From: cathy carpenter [mailto: cathyc@rnet.com]
> >>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:03:24 -0600
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Holiday Food
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Most folks of northern European heritage can drink milk throughout
> >>>>> <br>their lives, but the vast majority of the human population
> >>>>> cannot
> >>>>> <br>tolerate milk after the age of 5...they lose the ability to
> >>>>> digest
> >>>>> milk <br>sugar, lactose. The result? Very uncomfortable cramping
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> diarrhea.<br>Cathy<br><br>On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 04:16
> >>>>> PM,
> >>>>> Jesse Bell wrote:<br><br>> Hmmm, must be the "Kraut" in me......my
> >>>>> mother is German....but I just <br>> LOVE sauerkraut. And on my
> >>>>> father's
> >>>>> side...Scotch....so I love <br>> cooked cabbage too....and
> >>>>> coleslaw. I
> >>>>> just pretty much love cabbage. <br>> I cook it all the time...kids
> >>>>> love
> >>>>> it too...except for Robert's <br>> youngest, who is a very picky
> >>>>> eater.
> >>>>> She doesn't even drink <br>> milk.....now that's just WRONG. I
> >>>>> can't
> >>>>> imagine life without THAT!!! <br>> So I buy her the orange juice
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> vitamin C and D in it.<br>><br>> Jesse Rene' Bell<br>> Claremore,
> >>>>> OK<br>> Zone
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