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Re: Christmas giving programs

  • To: gardenchat@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: [CHAT] Christmas giving programs
  • From: Jesse Bell <silverhawk@flash.net>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:29:22 -0800 (PST)
  • In-reply-to: <113020041554.15291.41AC97C5000E03BA00003BBB2205884484979C9D0305@comcast.net>

Yeh...I tried like crazy to make Christmas special for my three kids
when they were young...and I was dirt poor. I made most of their gifts
and had put their Christmas gifts on layaway at Wal-Mart for 3 months
before so I could pay it off...and it was coats, shoes, etc. I always
felt sad and more like a failure that I couldn't provide more for them.
Then last year...when I talked to my kids about adopting a family and we
talked about what it was like when they were little...they looked at me,
stunned and said, "We had no idea we were poor...those were wonderful
times and Christmas was the best!" I cried. It made me feel good that
what I tried so hard to accomplish....worked. I just wanted them to feel
loved and special. And to appreciate what they have.

kmrsy@comcast.net wrote:Melody,
Thanks for the first-hand report of what the season can mean to those
who live without a securely funded homelife. We didn't have a lot
growing up (though more than you), but didn't really notice, because we
had what counts and my family did make sure we had some of the sparkle
to go with the basics.

I hope that every less fortunate child this year will have an angel to provide them with warm socks AND something fun.


-------------- Original message -------------- 

> Just a thought...as a child whose family often had to rely on the 
> kindness (or not) of others for Christmas, I learned at a very young age 
> not to expect too much...Santa was a fantasy long before I'd hit my 
> sixth birthday...the disappointment every year was just too much. 
> Anything we got beyond the requisite socks and underwear was a bonus. 
> Especially around this time of year, I feel truly saddened by the fact 
> that in this country where so much wealth abounds that it is almost 
> shameful, there are tens of thousands more children who will learn the 
> same lessons of going through life expecting that very little of the 
> prettier things in life will ever come their way. The disillusionment of 
> poverty can be crippling...emotionally and spiritually deadening any 
> belief in joy and removing forever any possible belief in magic. To this 
> day, I can only celebrate Christmas with half a heart and if it weren't 
> for the miracles of my children's smiles on that day when they wake up 
> and for a few hours the world and all the pretty things is theirs for 
> the taking, I doubt I'd even manage that. I try very hard to ground my 
> children in the more spiritual aspects of this season all year 
> long...they truly appreciate the gift of Jesus as their personal 
> Savior...and on more than this one day, so I find it easier to indulge 
> them on Christmas. And I know that as long as I am alive, my kids will 
> never, ever wake up to just socks and underwear for Christmas. 
> Sorry...off the soapbox now. Except to say perhaps that before one turns 
> to making generalizations about poor kids stealing things, one ought to 
> look at the incidence of shoplifting and kleptomania among more affluent 
> members of our society...it far exceeds that done by poorer children. 
> Melody 
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious." 
> --Albert Einstein 
> --- On Wed 11/24, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote: 
> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net] 
> To: gardenchat@hort.net 
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:07:22 -0500 
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Christmas giving programs 
> I agree the basics are important, but the "wants" for material 
> things
shouldn't be overlooked at Christmas. It doesn't have to be 
> bling, but with
the serviceable tube socks, couldn't you include one 
> pair with pink lace
around the edge? It's Cmas and everyone needs a 
> little sparkle.
It is sad that the assumption is that anything a poor 
> child wants but
doesn't get will be stolen. I know some of that will 
> happen, but I don't
think it is true across the 
> board.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "F M 
> Ferrari" 
> Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Christmas 
> giving programs

> You know, I really don't think that Jim's 
> remark is that off. If these
> kids are so poor, then they need some 
> basics. Here at work, we always
> adopt families and kids. Often 
> request a list of "wants" for Christmas.
> Let me tell you these 
> "poor" kids want more material things than most
> kids I know. Lot's 
> of requests for name brand stuff that is tied into
> gang 
> affiliation, lot's of "bling bling", etc.
> Yeah, like 
> anything related to gangs is going to be bought by
> corrections 
> employees! I hate how ungrateful so many of our adoptees
> are. I'll 
> only contribute stuff like socks and underwear, let them steal
> the 
> other stuff they want - I need a job until I retire. Fran (I'm a
> biostatistician for OK corrections medical services)
> Jesse Bell wrote:
> *snicker*...why does that 
> NOT surprise me Jim. You crack me up. While
you're at it...throw a 
> lump of cole in there too. LOL
> Jesse
> james singer 
> wrote:
> I don't know about the area where you live, but here there 
> are several
> organizations that want you to pick a child's name out 
> of some sort of
> replica of a hat and then go buy that child 
> something for christmas. I
> think this is a great idea. I intend to 
> buy several of these children
> the sam 
> e sort of presents I got when I was their age. Socks and
> underwear.
> Island Jim
> Southwest Florida
> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> Zone 10a
> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
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