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RE: Palms was Squirrels

We're zone 8 here, probably zone 8b now...I will sound like an old granny
but I gotta tell you it used to get colder than it does now. So I think 8b
is about right tho it does occasionally dip a bit lower than 15F. 
I started poking around looking at pix of hardy palms. The no-longer-vacant
lot has a few fan palms, they look like Washingtonias, those are not
uncommon here and they do pretty well unless it gets way way cold. Those
needed the crane to plant too. The other big ones have fronds more like a
date palm, long and fringy sort of, but multiple trunks. One of those is the
one that died, and they replaced it only a few weeks ago, even though we had
freezing nights. But it looks okay so far. Then they also planted some
smaller ones - they are probably only 6 ft tall - that look kind of like
queen palms, judging from the pictures I found. I see them a lot closer to
Los Angeles but I have never seen them here, so I'm watching; the fronds
look a little brownish but not dead.  
So it's a puzzle. We can't figure out why you'd put in such expensive plants
before you build the house. We watched them also add a block wall on one
side of the property (that's not cheap either) and there's a mailbox, but so
far no signs of home building. They do have a barbeque and a picnic table
out there, maybe it's a vacation spot! 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of james singer
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:20 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Squirrels

What's your zone, Cyndi? Your neighbor with the palms obviously has 
something extravagant in mind--you're right, there's no such thing as a 
cheap palm f they're large enough to require a crane to set them. What 
s the shape of the fronds? Blade or fan?

On Dec 14, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:

> That's the problem you know, I guess it's like the problem you 
> easterners
> have with deer. I do not want to harm these guys but I would rather 
> have
> them eating rabbits and ground squirrels out where there's still 
> desert.
> However if I supply a chicken buffet, of course they'll go where life 
> is
> easier. My recourse is to make it harder for them and hope they decide 
> to
> migrate out to the remaining open spaces...which probably already have 
> an
> existing population of critters; or maybe they'll patronize someone 
> else.
> I like my house and my neighborhood, and we've put a lot of work into 
> it
> all; but I find that as the area becomes more crowded that our 
> neighborhood
> is getting more and more upscale because of our 2 1/2 acre lots. Good 
> for
> property values but not many of the new move-ins are bringing along 
> horses
> or other livestock so I am a little worried we are going to have 
> problems in
> the future, what if Mr & Mrs Smith with their new 8000 sq ft house 
> decides
> they don't want to hear roosters crowing or sheep bellowing for their
> breakfast.
> Speaking of new neighbors someone bought a vacant lot down the street 
> from
> us and moved in a bunch of palm trees over the summer. No sign of home
> building but there are enormous palms dotted all over. I am not 
> conversant
> on prices for this sort of thing but they had to bring in a crane to 
> plant
> them so I'm speculating 10 grand per tree. These are really huge 
> trees, with
> multiple trunks and all. Not to mention that these are palms I have 
> never
> seen growing locally so I'm interested to see if they'll live. One of 
> them
> has already died and been replaced. I can't figure it out.
> Cyndi

Island Jim
Southwest Florida
27.0 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]

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