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Re: mahonia/deer

They get big here - 7' tall by 5' wide.  Can't wait!!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:56:45 -0500

>Libby, of all the Mahonias, bealei seems, for me, to withstand
>winter, summer and everything in between best.  Mine came gratis -
>self sown in the woods by birds and dug up and moved...I cherish
>every one I can get my paws on.  They will grow from seedling to
>about 30" in about 3 years, then they sort of slow down a bit but
>eventually can get pretty large.
>I've also gotten seedling size at plant exchange - I grab them as
>fast as I can:-)
>Some east coast mail order nurseries that list M. bealei - I have no
>experience ordering from them unless noted - anybody else know them?:
>Elk Mountain Nursery, Asheville, NC 
>Rare Find Nursery, NJ listed it last fall; probably have it this year
>as well
>Their site was temp. unavailable when I went to check but you could
>email the owner, Hank Schannen  hank6666@optonline.net to see if they
>have any.  He's on the rhodo list I'm on as that is their specialty.
>Fantastic Plants.com, TN,  has a hybrid, M. bealei x media Winter
>Sun that got an AGM from the RHS; might be interesting.
>If you ever get down this way, I bet Behnke Nursery would have it;
>would call first - they are not mailorder, but about the best nursery
>in the DC area.
>Hope this helps.
>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
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>> From: Libby Valentine <L_Valentine@adelphia.net>
>> Pam & Marge,
>> I had a chance to look these up this morning - they look great, and
>what a
>> range of site requirements and sizes they cover!  A mahonia for any
>> practically, and if they grow for Marge they should survive here if
>I choose
>> properly.  My better local nursery (Carroll Gardens) carries only 2
>and they
>> are both little ones, as in short mature height.  Have you gotten
>> through the mail, and if so, from whom?
>> This is the 4th winter the poor hollies have been stripped clean. 
>> come back, but all their energy is going into replacement leaves
>and they're
>> getting smaller not bigger - they are Ilex x. meserveae China Boy
>and China
>> Girl(s) so they don't get huge but these are stuck at 3 feet and
>> They look pathetic right now.  Maybe I could transplant them into
>> hedgerow, which is not yet on the usual deer circuit.  That was an
>> interesting thing about the ice/snow this year - got a good picture
>of what
>> the current deer paths through the yard are.  They used to stay
>along the
>> tree line in the back - not any more.
>> Libby
>> MD zone 6
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX/zone 8A


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