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Re: Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava


I was just a beginning gardener when I tried them, so some of the failure
was no doubt mine, but I don't think Simplicities could ever achieve the
hedge form they advertised here.  Maybe in Oregon.
Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody " <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava


> Kitty: I am glad to hear I am not the only one who fell for the J&P push
> on their simplicity roses only to have nothing but problems...they are
> horrible with their black spot. Bought 20...16 remain until I have the
> energy to pull them out this year...just have to bite the bullet and do
> it...they are so lovely in their first bloom, before it begins to rain
> late in spring here and then once the black spot hits...yuck!! Then I
> usually prune them severely back (literally to about 6 inches from the
> crown) and let them regrow...by the end of summer they are lovely again
> until fall rains come, by which time it's time to prune them back for
> winter. But that's alot of work for roses I get so little out of for the
> entire year...
>
>
>
> Melody Hobert-Mellecker
> Director, Stewardship & Religious Education
> St. Joseph's Parish, Hills, IA
>
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>
>  --- On Mon 02/14,  < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> From:  [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:28:13 +0000
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava
>
> Any carefree rose is welcome. About 14 yrs ago J&P was pushing
> its<br>Simplicity roses and I was just a beginning gardener. I bit. I
> bought 27<br>of them to create the rose hedge they described. Pretty
> flowers, but<br>plenty of blackspot and not all came back the next year
> (some of that<br>might be my fault, but I tended to go overboard on
> preparation and care<br>in my early years, very afraid I might fail). I
> eventually ripped out<br>what survived. Later tried some shrub roses
> that I found difficult to<br>maintain. I still have a Peace (I think)
> rose that my husband bought 20<br>yrs ago. The roses are pretty if the
> aphids & JBs don't get them, it<br>gets plenty of blackspot and a
> Rhododendron is trying to engulf it.<br>Frankly, I just gave up on roses
> as they were too much hassle and they<br>never performed
> well.<br><br><br>But this list kept yammering about the Knockout, so I
> tried it, and so<br>far so good. I also picked up a small Rosa 'Nearly
> Wild', but got rid of<br>it at the end of the season. Some disease and
> always fighting JBs on it.<br>But the insects seemed to leave Knockouts
> alone. Don't know why.<br><br><br>Maybe I'll try a carpet rose if I can
> find one cheap. Roses are pretty, but I'm not big on spraying or a lot
> of pruning.<br><br>--<br>Kitty <br>neIN, Zone5<br><br>--------------
> Original message -------------- <br><br>> I realize the hype is on
> knockout roses currently around here, but to be <br>> honest, I think
> the carpet roses are much better. The red version (sorry, <br>> not sure
> what they call it) has absolutely out bloomed any other for me. It <br>>
> doesn't get any of the nasty looking issues that other roses get here.
> It is <br>> in my no care area, and just blooms its heart out all summer
> long. <br>> <br>> Donna <br>> <br>> > <br>> > Several people on this
> list raved about the Knockout Rose (cherry-red <br>> > color) <br>> > so
> I bought one last summer AND a Blushing Knockout (pink). Blooming all
> <br>> > summer is nice, but what I'm really thrilled about was there was
> no sign <br>> > o
>
> f <br>> > black spot throughout or wet summer. <br>> > <br>> > Kitty
> <br>> > neIN Z5 <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> >
> From: "pdickson" <br>> > To: <br>> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005
> 10:50 PM <br>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava
> <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > Kitty, <br>> > > I was at Sunshine Nursery the
> other day and the girl that sells me more <br>> > > plants mentioned a
> "Knockout rose" that blooms all summer. She loves <br>> > it <br>> > >
> and highly recommended it. I didn't buy it but have thought about it
> <br>> > since <br>> > > then. They have a web site and I think they do
> mail order but on a very <br>> > > small scale. www.sunshinenursery.com
> <br>> > > Tricia <br>> > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > > From:
> "Kitty" <br>> > > To: <br>> > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:54 AM
> <br>> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava <br>>
> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > > Sometimes it is just luck finding things. Like
> finding Rosa <br>> > 'Knockout'. <br>> > > > I <br>> > > > was looking
> for 'Knock Out' - or was it the other way around? I tried <br>> > for
> <br>> > > > a <br>> > > > long time to find the full name or combined
> species parentage of my <br>> > > > Lonicera with no luck. Finally
> called the Mailorder nursery that sold <br>> > > > it - <br>> > > > they
> didn't have it either. I'll never know. <br>> > > > <br>> > > > Kitty
> <br>> > > > <br>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > > > From:
> "Theresa" <br>> > > > To: <br>> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005
> 12:24 PM <br>> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot
> Lava <br>> > > > <br>> > > > <br>> > > >> I saw one at a garden a couple
> years ago that was labeled- but I've <br>> > > >> never been able to
> find one since... So, maybe it was mislabeled or <br>> > has <br>> > >
> >> since been renamed??? I do not have anyidea who developed it. Well,
> <br>> > at <br>> > > >> least I'm not the only one who can't find it-
> thought maybe you all <br>> > knew <br>> > > >> some trick to
>
> fi
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