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Re: herbs > antibiotics > health care


O.K.  I will scratch the Circus off my list of career alternatives.
Nora
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] herbs > antibiotics > health care


> this seems like a good place to say that when i worked for the circus, i
> worked in the home office, mostly managing the home-base side of the
> logistics of a road trip. and that the people i worked with were, without
> doubt, the largest collection of humorless people i have ever had the
> misfortune to know.
>
>
> At 02:53 PM 1/3/03, you wrote:
> >Worked for a circus eh? Hum....now that's interesting! I wonder how many
of
> >us have worked in numerous fields? I sort of look at my medical
background
> >as partly self defense. I learned a few things as a horse breeder  and a
few
> >more things in the hotel industry and art industry. Mostly I think I
learned
> >that none are as easy or quite as glamorous as they seem. I value the
> >lessons I learned there though.
> >Nora
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jim singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:05 PM
> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] herbs > antibiotics > health care
> >
> >
> > > show of hands. how many on this list are or have been employed by the
> > > health care-industrial complex?
> > > i spent a good bit of time there myself, beginning with the onset of
> > > medicaid [federal government] in the late 60s to covering the politics
of
> > > health for national journal in the 70s to running migrant-worker
clinics
> >in
> > > the 80s to writing medicare coding manuals in the early 90s. i was
never
> >so
> > > glad to change career fields as i was the day i became editor of
corporate
> > > governance digest in 1992.
> > >
> > > from there to running a landscape nursery data base was easy--although
> > > there was that 9-month detour when i worked for a circus.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:34 PM 1/2/03, you wrote:
> > > >I would recommend to all interested in a cross cultural view of this
> >issue
> > > >that they find the (likely out of print) book - Medicine and Culture:
> > > >Varieties of Treatment in the United States, England, West Germany,
and
> > > >France, by Lynn Payer. This book explores the interesting fact that
the
> > > >above countries have equivalent life expectancies, but that medical
> > > >treatments differ enormously.
> > > >Cathy
> > > >On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 06:51 PM, Melody wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The absolute worst offenders with antibiotics are consumers and
> > > >>practitioners who demand and allow treatment for viral illnesses
such as
> > > >>the common cold with antibiotics that are meant only for bacterial
> > > >>illnesses. What do you suppose we are doing to ourselves with
> > > >>antibacterial handsoaps, lotions, plastics, sponges, dish
detergents,
> > > >>toys, etc....Exposing every day germs to antibacterial agents such
as
> > > >>these is insane!!! The human body is a host to multitudes of
bacterial
> > > >>strains that are supposed to be there! Killing them off-- this is
what
> > > >>allows supergerms to breed. That and the fact that most people who
are
> > > >>prescribed a ten day course of antibiotics only bother to take it
for
> > > >>half of the prescribed ten days...thus killing off only the body's
> > > >>normal bacteria while allowing the proliferation of the bad bacteria
to
> > > >>become supergerms that take over and cause superinfections. And if
> > > >>consumers don't want their meats/milks/vegetables/etc. pumped full
of
> > > >>antibiotics then why aren't more people actively pursuing other
avenues,
> > > >>including lobbying your local/state/federal legislators to outlaw
this?
> > > >>People like to complain alot about this, but don't really want to
get
> > > >>involved personally in stopping it...And as far as nurses are
> > > >>concerned...good handwashing is the key to preventing most of their
> > > >>troubles with bacteria but fully 70% of nurse's wedding bands/rings
are
> > > >>infected with strains of germs that could cause serious problems for
> > > >>thier patients because they fail to do it well enough...And I can't
> > > >>speak for other nurses, but I always keep my face well away from any
IV
> > > >>bag I'm spiking just on principle!!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> > > >
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