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RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


I LOVE that - nicely done!!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:46:19 -0500

>You two sound well matched!
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Date: 1/29/2003 4:37:44 AM
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>
>> when someone asked my second wife why we had different last names if we 
>> were really married, she said it was because we had different fathers.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 08:34 PM 1/28/03 -0800, you wrote:
>> >OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood the
>> >Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
>married.
>> >My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
>> >(just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms. 
>I
>> >absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who the
>> >heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>> >I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>> >
>> >Theresa
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>> >Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>> >
>> >
>> >People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>> >mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>> >astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>> >"take")
>> >
>> >It's amazing, isn't it??
>> >
>> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>> >
>> > >Jim,
>> > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
>term,
>> > >but didn't agree with it.
>> > >
>> > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a
>job to
>> > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
>women.
>> > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
>waiters;
>> > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because he
>> > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
>big
>> > >tip)
>> > >
>> > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
>and
>> > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that
>it was
>> > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only
>Mrs.  I
>> > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
>Cemetery
>> > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All 3
>> > >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
>on
>> > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell them
>> > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
>such
>> > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>> > >
>> > >Why don't single people count?
>> > >
>> > >Kitty
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> [Original Message]
>> > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>> > >>
>> > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i
>think the
>> > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
>against
>> > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
>as
>> > >> acceptable.
>> > >>
>> > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>> > >discussion,
>> > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>> > >>
>> > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
>do
>> > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
>behavior
>> > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
>> > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
>it?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Kitty
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
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>> >
>> >--
>> >Pam Evans
>> >Kemp TX/zone 8A
>> >
>> >
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