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RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


If it's been more than 10 years - get the shot darlin'...

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:24:22 -0500 (EST)

>Theresa: In that case, never mind my previous question re:
>tetanus...unless of course, you happen to know? Listen to me, I'm just
>looking for an excuse to put off getting that darned tetanus shot! :-)
>
>
>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>
>"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
>--Albert Einstein
>
> --- On Thu 01/30, Theresa- yahoo < tchessie@yahoo.com > wrote:
>From: Theresa- yahoo [mailto: tchessie@yahoo.com]
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:52:06 -0800
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
>A Ph.D. kind of doctor.  Work with children with developmental problems at a
>major medical center.
>
>Theresa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of David Franzman
>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:51 PM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
>
>You're a doctor???  Man, I'm learning all kinds of things today.  What are
>you a
>doctor of?
>
>DF
>
>Theresa- yahoo wrote:
>
>> Amazingly, I still have an occassional parent be very surprised when I
>> introduce myself at work (Dr. Witt)- usually it is a man who is surprised.
>> One or two have even said outloud that they expected a man- one asked for
>a
>> "man doctor".  This is are more annoying than those people who are
>surprised
>> I am a Dr. because I look so young.  That I can live with : ) - and will
>> likely enjoy more and more as years go by.
>>
>> Theresa
>>
>> P.S. For the record- our clinic nurse is a man.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>> Behalf Of Andrea H
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:18 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>
>> Hey-I'm right in there with that one. I will always be Ms. Andrea Hodges.
>I
>> always get amused by our garden club ladies and other socialites here in
>> Beaufort who introduce them selves as Mrs. George Trask or whatever. I
>> cannot IMAGINE living my life as an appendage.
>>
>> A close friend of mine who is a doctor went into an art gallery with her
>> husband here some years ago. Her husband (who was also a Dr. )introduced
>> himself and the owner of the gallery (a woman) said to Andra, "Well aren't
>> you just the luckiest thing, you caught yourself a DOCTOR." Andra turned
>> around and walked out and never went back. I was amazed at that woman.
>What
>> an idiot!
>>
>> Andrea H
>> Beaufort, SC
>> Zone 8b
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Tandy" <sundrops@earthlink.net>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>
>> > Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my mother's (and
>> > grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't even
>> use
>> > their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
>> > --Barbara Tandy, California
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>> >
>> >
>> > > OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood
>the
>> > > Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
>> married.
>> > > My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects
>gender
>> > > (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use
>Ms.
>> I
>> > > absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who
>the
>> > > heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>> > > I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>> > >
>> > > Theresa
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>> > > Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>> > > mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>> > > astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>> > > "take")
>> > >
>> > > It's amazing, isn't it??
>> > >
>> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> > > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>> > > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > > Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>> > >
>> > > >Jim,
>> > > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
>> > term,
>> > > >but didn't agree with it.
>> > > >
>> > > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a
>job
>> > to
>> > > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
>> > women.
>> > > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
>> > waiters;
>> > > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because
>he
>> > > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
>> big
>> > > >tip)
>> > > >
>> > > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
>> and
>> > > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that
>it
>> > was
>> > > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only
>Mrs.
>> > I
>> > > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
>> > Cemetery
>> > > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All
>3
>> > > >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
>> on
>> > > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell
>them
>> > > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
>> such
>> > > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>> > > >
>> > > >Why don't single people count?
>> > > >
>> > > >Kitty
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> [Original Message]
>> > > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> > > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>> > > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i
>think
>> > the
>> > > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
>> against
>> > > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
>> as
>> > > >> acceptable.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>> > > >discussion,
>> > > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> > > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me.
>What
>> do
>> > > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
>> behavior
>> > > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over
>male.
>> > > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
>> it?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >Kitty
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
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>> > > --
>> > > Pam Evans
>> > > Kemp TX/zone 8A
>> > >
>> > >
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