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Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


LOL! Just go get the shot Melody! I promise it won't be too bad. No worse
than say, having a red hot needle stuck in your eye. Can you tell I ahte
shots?

Andrea H
Beaufort, SC
Zone 8b

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


> Theresa: In that case, never mind my previous question re:
> tetanus...unless of course, you happen to know? Listen to me, I'm just
> looking for an excuse to put off getting that darned tetanus shot! :-)
>
>
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>
>  --- On Thu 01/30, Theresa- yahoo < tchessie@yahoo.com > wrote:
> From: Theresa- yahoo [mailto: tchessie@yahoo.com]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:52:06 -0800
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
> A Ph.D. kind of doctor.  Work with children with developmental problems at
a
> major medical center.
>
> Theresa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> Behalf Of David Franzman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:51 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
>
>
> You're a doctor???  Man, I'm learning all kinds of things today.  What are
> you a
> doctor of?
>
> DF
>
> Theresa- yahoo wrote:
>
> &gt; Amazingly, I still have an occassional parent be very surprised when
I
> &gt; introduce myself at work (Dr. Witt)- usually it is a man who is
surprised.
> &gt; One or two have even said outloud that they expected a man- one asked
for
> a
> &gt; &quot;man doctor&quot;.  This is are more annoying than those people
who are
> surprised
> &gt; I am a Dr. because I look so young.  That I can live with : ) - and
will
> &gt; likely enjoy more and more as years go by.
> &gt;
> &gt; Theresa
> &gt;
> &gt; P.S. For the record- our clinic nurse is a man.
> &gt;
> &gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt; From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> &gt; Behalf Of Andrea H
> &gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:18 PM
> &gt; To: gardenchat@hort.net
> &gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
> &gt;
> &gt; Hey-I'm right in there with that one. I will always be Ms. Andrea
Hodges.
> I
> &gt; always get amused by our garden club ladies and other socialites here
in
> &gt; Beaufort who introduce them selves as Mrs. George Trask or whatever.
I
> &gt; cannot IMAGINE living my life as an appendage.
> &gt;
> &gt; A close friend of mine who is a doctor went into an art gallery with
her
> &gt; husband here some years ago. Her husband (who was also a
Dr. )introduced
> &gt; himself and the owner of the gallery (a woman) said to Andra,
&quot;Well aren't
> &gt; you just the luckiest thing, you caught yourself a DOCTOR.&quot;
Andra turned
> &gt; around and walked out and never went back. I was amazed at that
woman.
> What
> &gt; an idiot!
> &gt;
> &gt; Andrea H
> &gt; Beaufort, SC
> &gt; Zone 8b
> &gt;
> &gt; ----- Original Message -----
> &gt; From: &quot;Barbara Tandy&quot; &lt;sundrops@earthlink.net&gt;
> &gt; To: &lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;
> &gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:41 PM
> &gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my
mother's (and
> &gt; &gt; grandmother's) always went by the title &quot;Mrs. John
Smith&quot; -- didn't even
> &gt; use
> &gt; &gt; their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
> &gt; &gt; --Barbara Tandy, California
> &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
> &gt; &gt; From: &quot;Theresa- yahoo&quot; &lt;tchessie@yahoo.com&gt;
> &gt; &gt; To: &lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;
> &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
> &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever
understood
> the
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because
she got
> &gt; married.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This
reflects
> gender
> &gt; &gt; &gt; (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and
still use
> Ms.
> &gt; I
> &gt; &gt; &gt; absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John
Witt.- who
> the
> &gt; &gt; &gt; heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some
appendage.
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Theresa
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt; &gt; &gt; From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
[mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
> &gt; &gt; &gt; To: gardenchat@hort.net
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs.
Evans is my
> &gt; &gt; &gt; mother, not me. When people find out I've never been
married, most are
> &gt; &gt; &gt; astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it
didn't
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;take&quot;)
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; It's amazing, isn't it??
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; ---------- Original
Message ----------------------------------
> &gt; &gt; &gt; From: &quot;Kitty Morrissy&quot;
&lt;kmrsy@earthlink.net&gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Jim,
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I guess what I should have said was that understood
their use of the
> &gt; &gt; term,
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;but didn't agree with it.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot,
lost out on a
> job
> &gt; &gt; to
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they
had to hire
> &gt; &gt; women.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who
refused to tip
> &gt; &gt; waiters;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;didn't want to &quot;encourage them to stay in that
line of work&quot; because
> he
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left
the guy a nice
> &gt; big
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;tip)
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A
salesperson called
> &gt; and
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not
married and that
> it
> &gt; &gt; was
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed
to use only
> Mrs.
> &gt; &gt; I
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I
received a
> &gt; &gt; Cemetery
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty
Morrissy.  All
> 3
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;pages of the letter described everything offered as
being conditioned
> &gt; on
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I
called to tell
> them
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I
interested in
> &gt; such
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Why don't single people count?
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Kitty
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; [Original Message]
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; From: Island Jim &lt;jsinger@igc.org&gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; To: &lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse
sexism?!
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of
being a sexist, i
> think
> &gt; &gt; the
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; women who have carried the torch against sexist
behavior by men
> &gt; against
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; women have cozened the word as their own with only
their definition
> &gt; as
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; acceptable.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; i think that's why when cooler heads [or both
sexes] joined the
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;discussion,
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has
been bugging me.
> What
> &gt; do
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is
the same abhorant
> &gt; behavior
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;whether it is a preference of male over female
or female over
> male.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no
preference, wouldn't
> &gt; it?
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;Kitty
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;If you have weeds, you don't have enough
plants.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
> &gt;
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> &gt; &gt; &gt; Pam Evans
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Kemp TX/zone 8A
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