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RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


Yeah...I know...but you guys are talking to a nurse who fainted the
first time she ever gave a shot to anyone...really, I'm not making this
up...I do okay with giving shots now after 15 years of doing it but I
still do not draw blood or start IV's...grosses me out and makes me
woozy. Don't like any of that yucky medicine or surgery stuff--it's part
of the reason I'm a psychiatric nurse! But I'll go because I want to
live to be a really mean little ol' lady someday...not die of tetanus!


Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Thu 01/30, Theresa- yahoo < tchessie@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: Theresa- yahoo [mailto: tchessie@yahoo.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:30:55 -0800
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Get the tetanus shot!  They really aren't that bad.

Theresa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
Behalf Of Melody
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:24 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


Theresa: In that case, never mind my previous question re:
tetanus...unless of course, you happen to know? Listen to me, I'm just
looking for an excuse to put off getting that darned tetanus shot! :-)


Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Thu 01/30, Theresa- yahoo < tchessie@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: Theresa- yahoo [mailto: tchessie@yahoo.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:52:06 -0800
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

A Ph.D. kind of doctor.  Work with children with developmental problems at a
major medical center.

Theresa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
Behalf Of David Franzman
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:51 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.


You're a doctor???  Man, I'm learning all kinds of things today.  What are
you a
doctor of?

DF

Theresa- yahoo wrote:

&gt; Amazingly, I still have an occassional parent be very surprised when I
&gt; introduce myself at work (Dr. Witt)- usually it is a man who is
surprised.
&gt; One or two have even said outloud that they expected a man- one asked
for
a
&gt; &quot;man doctor&quot;.  This is are more annoying than those people
who are
surprised
&gt; I am a Dr. because I look so young.  That I can live with : ) - and
will
&gt; likely enjoy more and more as years go by.
&gt;
&gt; Theresa
&gt;
&gt; P.S. For the record- our clinic nurse is a man.
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
&gt; Behalf Of Andrea H
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:18 PM
&gt; To: gardenchat@hort.net
&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
&gt;
&gt; Hey-I'm right in there with that one. I will always be Ms. Andrea
Hodges.
I
&gt; always get amused by our garden club ladies and other socialites here
in
&gt; Beaufort who introduce them selves as Mrs. George Trask or whatever. I
&gt; cannot IMAGINE living my life as an appendage.
&gt;
&gt; A close friend of mine who is a doctor went into an art gallery with
her
&gt; husband here some years ago. Her husband (who was also a
Dr. )introduced
&gt; himself and the owner of the gallery (a woman) said to Andra,
&quot;Well aren't
&gt; you just the luckiest thing, you caught yourself a DOCTOR.&quot; Andra
turned
&gt; around and walked out and never went back. I was amazed at that woman.
What
&gt; an idiot!
&gt;
&gt; Andrea H
&gt; Beaufort, SC
&gt; Zone 8b
&gt;
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: &quot;Barbara Tandy&quot; &lt;sundrops@earthlink.net&gt;
&gt; To: &lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:41 PM
&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my
mother's (and
&gt; &gt; grandmother's) always went by the title &quot;Mrs. John
Smith&quot; -- didn't even
&gt; use
&gt; &gt; their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
&gt; &gt; --Barbara Tandy, California
&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; &gt; From: &quot;Theresa- yahoo&quot; &lt;tchessie@yahoo.com&gt;
&gt; &gt; To: &lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism&lt; Ms. Mrs.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever
understood
the
&gt; &gt; &gt; Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she
got
&gt; married.
&gt; &gt; &gt; My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This
reflects
gender
&gt; &gt; &gt; (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and
still use
Ms.
&gt; I
&gt; &gt; &gt; absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John
Witt.- who
the
&gt; &gt; &gt; heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
&gt; &gt; &gt; I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some
appendage.
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Theresa
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
[mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
&gt; &gt; &gt; Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: gardenchat@hort.net
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs.
Evans is my
&gt; &gt; &gt; mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married,
most are
&gt; &gt; &gt; astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it
didn't
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;take&quot;)
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; It's amazing, isn't it??
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; ---------- Original
Message ----------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: &quot;Kitty Morrissy&quot; &lt;kmrsy@earthlink.net&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
&gt; &gt; &gt; Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Jim,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I guess what I should have said was that understood their
use of the
&gt; &gt; term,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;but didn't agree with it.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot,
lost out on a
job
&gt; &gt; to
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they
had to hire
&gt; &gt; women.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who
refused to tip
&gt; &gt; waiters;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;didn't want to &quot;encourage them to stay in that line
of work&quot; because
he
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left
the guy a nice
&gt; big
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;tip)
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A
salesperson called
&gt; and
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not
married and that
it
&gt; &gt; was
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to
use only
Mrs.
&gt; &gt; I
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I
received a
&gt; &gt; Cemetery
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty
Morrissy.  All
3
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;pages of the letter described everything offered as being
conditioned
&gt; on
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I
called to tell
them
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I
interested in
&gt; such
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Why don't single people count?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Kitty
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; [Original Message]
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; From: Island Jim &lt;jsinger@igc.org&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; To: &lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse
sexism?!
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being
a sexist, i
think
&gt; &gt; the
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; women who have carried the torch against sexist
behavior by men
&gt; against
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; women have cozened the word as their own with only
their definition
&gt; as
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; acceptable.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes]
joined the
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;discussion,
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has
been bugging me.
What
&gt; do
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the
same abhorant
&gt; behavior
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;whether it is a preference of male over female
or female over
male.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no
preference, wouldn't
&gt; it?
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;Kitty
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
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&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; --
&gt; &gt; &gt; Pam Evans
&gt; &gt; &gt; Kemp TX/zone 8A
&gt; &gt; &gt;
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