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RE: Progress on the garden wall/pea gravel

Pam! I think we were separated at birth! Like you, a transplanted Yankee
and loving it here, I'm always the slow one. Even slower than many of my
adopted Okie friends and family! My husband, native Okie with landrun
roots, is always hurrying me about! You would think HE was from the
northeast and I was the local!

And yes, the heat gives me a good reason to be slow and methodological.
I'm ready to start with major mulch and dirt hauling right now! Once
Memorial Day hits, I'm ready for garden cruise control, my chaise and
something liquid to sip!

Now if only I could erase this desire to have one of those Pennsylvania
type gardens and learn how to substitute the native plants to get the
look I want!

Fran, OKC

"Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com> wrote:
How cute - I love that! I'm exactly the opposite. Remember the story
about the tortoise and the hare? Well, I'm the tortoise. I'm in no big
woofin' hurry, but I'm diligent and persistent and the job will get

That works out real well on all those 100 degree days. If you didn't
take your time and pace yourself, you'd be passed out w/ heat

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Theresa" 
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:02:31 -0800

>When I used to work on the Indian Reservation they nicknamed me the
>"hummingbird". I stood out like a sore thumb simply because of the rate of
>speed I generally function at!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:49 AM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] Progress on the garden wall/pea gravel
>Theresa darlin' - you are going to be in awesome shape when you finally
>finish this project! Wow.
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Theresa" 
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:47:22 -0800
>>Ok! Today I started breaking up the sloping sidewalk at the edge of my
>>frontyard. I took out the flagstones that were mortared into place (will
>>reuse them), and broke up the next layer (about 2 inches thick) of cement.
>>However, there is a 3rd layer, with wire mesh running through it. Well it
>>was starting to rain, and my back was killing me, so that will wait until
>>this weekend. I've got to get a small dumpster to throw away all the
>>cement. I have to toss layer number 2, so that I can get down to the
>>layer and break it up witht he jack hammer and finish cutting the wire grid
>>where needed. Thank god for my neighbor across the street, who is carting
>>the jackhammer back and forth from work for me. It was actually way easier
>>to use than I expected- and much smaller (he brought me the smallest one).
>>Maybe I'll reserve a section toward the top and try a little gravel garden,
>>since I now know whay might grow there!
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>>Behalf Of Marge Talt
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:49 PM
>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Progress on the garden wall/pea gravel
>>> From: Theresa 
>>> I personally hate pea gravel- or for that matter pretty much any
>>gravel. I
>>> recall having to weed the gravel driveway whe I was a kid. Was
>>> senseless, because new weeds/grass sprouted up the next day.
>>Aw, Theresa, that just goes to show that plants like gravel:-) I get
>>really tired of weeding our gravel drive; it is a continuous chore,
>>but I have found some treasures seeded into it that will not seed
>>into the beds where the parent plants are growing.
>>Gravel, like boggy spots, can turn into a major plus instead of being
>>a major pain if you put the right plants in there.
>>One of my favorite garden authors, Pamela Harper, covered a lawn area
>>with gravel and grows all sorts of very neat plants in it - it's her
>>gravel garden; of course in full sun, which I do not possess.
>>My garden guru, Beth Chatto, has part of her garden on naturally
>>occurring gravel many feet deep and has created an incredible garden
>>of drought resistant plants:
>>Her book "The Dry Garden" tells all about it and the plants she grows
>>there...she's an excellent author as well as being a fantastic
>>Your layers of landscape fabric would be a bit of a problem - or
>>could be - because many good drainage lovers are tap rooted so they
>>can take advantage of any moisture going.
>>Gravel does get hot on the top, but it is cool underneath, which is
>>what plants like.
>>If you decide to dig up the gravel where it is, don't get rid of it;
>>use it to amend clay soil to improve drainage and pick a little sunny
>>spot to try a bit of gravel gardening...bet you'll get hooked:-)
>>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
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