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Re: greenhouse/ butterflies

I wonder why they left off Aristolochia durior?

Cathy, west central IL, z5b

On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:17 PM, Karen Fernsler wrote:

> Hrm.  According to:
> http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/butterfly/2004041551026161.html
> (excerpt)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --
> Pipevine swallowtail caterpillars will die if raised on tropical  
> pipevines.
> Please only use the pipevines on the list.
> Pipevine Swallowtail
> - Pipevine family, Aristolochia
> 1. Aristolochia macrophylla - big leaf pipevine
> 2. Aristolochia tomentosa - woolly pipevine
> 3. Aristolochia serpentaria - Virginia snakeroot
> 4. Aristolochia californica - California pipevine
> 5. Aristolochia fimbriata - white-veined Duchman's pipe
> (Though I try not to read everything I believe.
>  Strike that.
>  Reverse.
> )
> -s z5b
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:36:21PM -0500, Gene Bush wrote:
>> Hello Noreen,
>>     We get occasional feeding on the Aristolochia durior. It is  
>> locate on
>> the garden entrance in a bit of shade and heavy soil, not doing as  
>> well as
>> it could with more light and deeper soil. Perhaps that is the  
>> reason it is
>> not used as much by the butterflies. However, we have A.  
>> clematitis that got
>> loose in the display beds and we leave it there between the other  
>> containers
>> ... it gets stripped every late summer. We can not find the cocoons
>> though... one day everyone is fat and happy, next they have  
>> disappeared.
>>     We have had the local maypop one year now... it got hit fairly  
>> heavy
>> this summer. We only work with what is hardy to this area. Wish we  
>> could
>> grow some of the more exotic pipevines.
>>     Gene E. Bush
>> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>> www.munchkinnursery.com
>> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>> Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <TeichFlora@aol.com>
>>> Gene, do you know the botanical of the Pipevine that the butterflies
>>> like??
>>> I've had a butterfly garden for years, and belong to the local   
>>> group of
>>> NABA.  From my experiences and others, we've found that the   
>>> Pipevine
>>> Swallowtails
>>> here only seem to like the A. fimbriata and the natives   
>>> species.  No
>>> larval
>>> activity on A. gigantea, A. elegans, or A.  grande.  We've even  
>>> tried to
>>> relocate caterpillars from the A. fimbriata  over to one of these  
>>> since
>>> there was
>>> very little food left......but the  caterpillars died after  
>>> eating the
>>> foliage.
>>>  (No pesticides, so that  wasn't it.)  This was my experience as  
>>> well as
>>> others.
>>> Had the same experiences here with the Frittilary on  
>>> Passionvines.   They
>>> seem to only go to the native species of Passiflora, and only one  
>>> or so of
>>> the
>>> other varieties.  I'm curious what species you (Gene and others)  
>>> have  had
>>> success with.
>>> Noreen
>>> zone 9
>>> Texas Gulf Coast
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