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Re: Beetles and Books


Hi Jesse,
    I think every gardener in this area does there best to meet the
challenges. One way that many thwart the elk and deer is to use really
smelly stuff as long as the garden is away from the house. The favorite in
my area I am told is Bobbex which is really  a stinky natural fertilizer
mixture.Some of my garden center customers swear by Milorganite fertilizer
and feathermeal(extremely smelly) Do your aunt and uncle garden? What do
they find effective.
    This is the first year(I have lived in Evergreen for 6 gardening
seasons) that I attempted a garden away from the house. Previously, I have
grown some vegetables in containers on the south deck since the deer and elk
have not climbed the stairs yet. Raccoons and squirrels have good access
from several angles. One season, after the elk ate all my pansies out of my
front window boxes, I planted onions since they are not supposed to like
them. Well, they waited until the greens were about 12" tall and munched
them down to 2".  I wonder if they got a date that night...or is that why
the parsley also disappeared.
    We really do enjoy the wildlife  here and they came with the territory
so I cope as best I can.

Betsy
Evergreen
it's 10pm and 70 degrees tonight
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beetles and Books


> Hi Betsy, my aunt and uncle have a house in Estes Park...and the elk walk
> around it all the time.  I don't know how ANYBODY in that area keeps a
> garden.  That would be a challenge for sure.
>
> Jesse Rene' Bell
> Claremore, OK
> Zone 6
>
>
> >From: "Betsy Kelson" <bkelson@ix.netcom.com>
> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beetles and Books
> >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:34:36 -0600
> >
> >Ceres,
> >         Those Bambis can be a pain in the plants, can't they? Today, I
had
> >a
> >small group of elk spend the day in the back yard. About seven cows and 5
> >calves between them.
> >          I caught one calf standing on the middle of my 4x4 raised bed.
I
> >spoke sharply to him and his mother from the deck and they finally moved
> >away. I did not dare approach the young one because the mothers are very
> >protective and will charge.
> >          I have tried to protect this new garden. One day, I found all
the
> >plants flattened under their Wall 'o' Waters because an elk stumbled
> >through
> >the bed. Another day, the green garden netting used to protect the bed
was
> >caught on a bush about 50 feet away where something had finally untangled
> >itself from it. I stopped using the net because I was afraid that a calf
> >would get entangled and not be able to free itself. So today the beasts
ate
> >my brocolli, pepper, and a Walla Walla onion before I could speak sharply
> >to
> >her again. The Cute Vermin!!!
> >
> >Betsy
> >Evergreen CO
> >Sunny high 80's
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "cathy carpenter" <cathyc@rnet.com>
> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:16 PM
> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beetles and Books
> >
> >
> > > After reading the book, I even felt benevolent towards cockroaches (as
> > > long as they stay outside the house!). Grissell admits that even he
has
> > > a problem with mosquitos, but acknowledges they are a food source for
> > > many predators. I try to keep insecticide use to an absolute minimum,
> > > but today I did spray the damaged (Bambi cleaning antlers) trunk of a
> > > young tulip tree to minimize opportunistic insects. Would hate to lose
> > > a tree I planted myself.
> > > Cathy
> > > On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 08:11 PM, Kitty wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cathy,
> > > > I have this book, alas another I've not sat down to read, but I do
> > > > want to
> > > > get to it one of these days.  I read an excerpt when it first came
out
> > > > and
> > > > agree wholeheartedly.
> > > >
> > > > I've recently noticed an actor in a commercial pushing a lawn
> > > > insecticide
> > > > that kills grubs and ants.  I understand the presence of grubs
should
> > > > minimized in lawns and I understand the damage some ants like
> > > > carpenter ants
> > > > can do to a house and certain ants in particular parts of the
country
> > > > like
> > > > fire ants posing a problem.  But just generally ants?  Why are ants
> > > > such a
> > > > problem for a lawn?  And don't they provide some benefit?  Why do
> >these
> > > > people want to sterilize our world?
> > > >
> > > > Kitty
> > >
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