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Re: Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..


Judy: When is your birthday? My 40th is right around the corner. A
hammock, eh?? That sounds perfect to me...what better thing could I ask
for than something to rest my bones in after a hard day in the garden? I
am getting old, ya know! HaHa! BTW, I've never felt better or more
centered in my whole life...I think 40 is going to be great...The one
thing I am most thankful to God for is that year by year, my life just
keeps getting better...


Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Fri 07/09, Judy L Browning < judybrowning@lewiston.com > wrote:
From: Judy L Browning [mailto: judybrowning@lewiston.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:43:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..

It's so nice to know it's possible to live a quiet happy life. I've
laughed<br>out loud at these stories, recognizing friends and family
that would fit<br>right in the mix. Despite the disagreements and
frustrations that are part<br>of any marriage, I live a pretty
unexciting life. And get down on my knees &amp;<br>thank God I don't
have the &quot;excitement&quot; some folk experience. I
really<br>believe a person can change and be better than before.
Otherwise those<br>experiences are just wasted time. Unfortunately, some
folks just don't get<br>it, or buy into the lie that mistakes are
permanent and change impossible.<br>Oh, sorry, getting off the soapbox
now,<br>Judy<br>z 6 Idaho, warm breezy sunny, almost perfect summer day
here. All I need is<br>a hammock. Hmm birthday coming up, maybe some out
right begging will do the<br>trick? Heh heh<br>----- Original Message
-----<br>From: &quot;Melody&quot; &lt;mhobertm@excite.com&gt;<br>To:
&lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;<br>Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:04
PM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks, wedding..<br><br><br>&gt;
Ya know...I grew up thinking all families were as bad as mine...I
didn't<br>&gt; know it was dysfunctional...thought that was normal. Then
I thought I<br>&gt; learned differently when I met my husband's family
and friends. Now<br>&gt; maybe, thanks to all of you...I'm beginning to
think it's my husband's<br>&gt; family that is abnormal and the screwed
up rest of us...are more normal<br>&gt; than we think we are. LOL!!!
:-)<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
&quot;The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
mysterious.&quot;<br>&gt; --Albert Einstein<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --- On Thu
07/08, Jesse Bell &lt; silverhawk@flash.net &gt; wrote:<br>&gt; From:
Jesse Bell [mailto: silverhawk@flash.net]<br>&gt; To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>&gt; Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:44:46 -0700
(PDT)<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks,
wedding..<br>&gt;<br>&gt; OHMYGOSH Kitty...that's horrible. Geeeeez
Louise. So....your family<b

r>&gt; and&lt;br&gt;my family sound related?! Are we cousins? Feel free
to jump in<br>&gt; there&lt;br&gt;Andrea...(Andrea and I trade stories
about our family all<br>&gt;
the&lt;br&gt;time...LOL).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Jesse&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kitty
&lt;kmrsy@comcast.net&gt;<br>&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;Re &gt; &gt; Well, the
dysfunctional part would be:...&lt;br&gt;Jesse, I<br>&gt; was being
facetious when I asked. However, your fleshing out<br>&gt;
the&lt;br&gt;material was pretty interesting, so, if I were to say I
still<br>&gt; didn't get it,&lt;br&gt;maybe you'd tell us more?
;+)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To balance this I<br>&gt; can add that my older
sister decided to kill herself on my&lt;br&gt;wedding<br>&gt; day
(didn't succeed) apparently because I asked her to make
a&lt;br&gt;turkey.<br>&gt; The turkey was the simplest thing I could
come up with for her as&lt;br&gt;she<br>&gt; kept asking for something
to contribute. Then for my second wedding<br>&gt; I&lt;br&gt;came darned
close to trying to kill myself, so yes, I can<br>&gt;
relate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kitty&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original
Message ----- &lt;br&gt;From:<br>&gt; &quot;Jesse Bell&quot;
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;br&gt;Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:33<br>&gt;
PM&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks,
wedding..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; Oh<br>&gt; yes...I did the
shower and helped plan the food and coordinate.<br>&gt;
They&lt;br&gt;&gt; got married on the 2nd of July but did not leave for
the&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; cruise/honeymoon till Monday so on Sunday we
had the new in-law<br>&gt; family&lt;br&gt;&gt; and our family (parents,
brothers, sister, aunts, etc) at<br>&gt; our house for&lt;br&gt;&gt; a
cookout, drinks and fireworks. The groom's, mother,<br>&gt; father
and&lt;br&gt;&gt; stepmother were there. That was funny to watch<br>&gt;
too.&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; Well, the dysfunctional
part would be: the second ex<br>&gt; wife who is no&lt;br&gt;&gt;
relation to the bride or groom, and when my<br>&gt; stepda

ug
hter lived with her,&lt;br&gt;&gt; they HATED each other, and yet she
was<br>&gt; escorted down the aisle like she&lt;br&gt;&gt; was FAMILY
for Pete's sake. NOBODY<br>&gt; wanted her there but my
stepdaughter&lt;br&gt;&gt; didn't want to &quot;hurt her<br>&gt;
feelings&quot; so when she invited herself to the&lt;br&gt;&gt;
wedding...Nic said<br>&gt; &quot;well....O.K.&quot;. This is the woman
who spread horrible&lt;br&gt;&gt; rumors about<br>&gt; my husband and
his family that were not true....yet odd<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
ly&lt;br&gt;&gt; enough...continues to impose at our family<br>&gt;
functions.&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; AND...the people in
my family and my<br>&gt; husband''s ex who can't seem to&lt;br&gt;&gt;
function in this world unless they<br>&gt; have taken some sort of drug
or have&lt;br&gt;&gt; a glass of alcohol in their<br>&gt; hands...or
worse..they've MIXED them...and&lt;br&gt;&gt; become so obnoxious
you<br>&gt; can't stand to be around them. Remember the
old&lt;br&gt;&gt; toys you got in the<br>&gt; gum machine...the black
and white scottie dogs that&lt;br&gt;&gt; were magnets?<br>&gt; and if
you pushed one towards the other it would scoot&lt;br&gt;&gt; away?
Well,<br>&gt; that would be my sister or my husband's ex...they would
come&lt;br&gt;&gt; into a<br>&gt; room and you could see people start to
scoot out of there....they&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; would continue with
this scenario until somebody had to say &quot;I<br>&gt;
think&lt;br&gt;&gt; you've had enough...go home and sleep it off&quot;.
My sister<br>&gt; left. The&lt;br&gt;&gt; ex...well she made a scene and
was there until the last<br>&gt; person was gone.&lt;br&gt;&gt; She was
out back drinking shots of Yagermeister (I<br>&gt; KNOW I didn't
spell&lt;br&gt;&gt; that right). That stuff is like
Tequila...it'll<br>&gt; will kill ya after a few&lt;br&gt;&gt; shots.
UGHHH.&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
Kitty<br>&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&gt; So what was the dysfunctional
part?&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; Since

this was<br>&gt; your stepdaughter, did you have any part in the
planning of&lt;br&gt;&gt; the<br>&gt; event?&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
Kitty&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; From: &quot;Jesse Bell&quot;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
To:&lt;br&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:10<br>&gt;
PM&lt;br&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Four O'Clocks,
wedding..&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Well,
in my zone the four o'clocks get bigger and bigger
&quot;tubers&quot;<br>&gt; as&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; they mature. I have
some that are as big as a sweet<br>&gt; potato....and they&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; get BIG, but are slower to bloom.&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; As for the
wedding....you have to know that (A) I come from a<br>&gt;
very&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; dysfunctional family, (B) my husband's two ex's
are<br>&gt; dysfunctional and&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; way &quot;out
there&quot;, (c) my stepdaughter and her<br>&gt; new husband are from
&quot;that&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; generation&quot; as my husband puts
it...so<br>&gt; half of the wedding guests were&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
rather conservative...and &quot;that<br>&gt; generation&quot; made up
the other&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; ha<br>&gt;<br>&gt; lf<br>&gt; ...(facial
piercing, tattoos all over, dressed rather oddly...and&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; when you walked out back of the reception hall...the smell
of pot<br>&gt; was&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; THICK let me tell ya). I had to
make my sister go home<br>&gt; because she had&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; too
much to drink (act surprised) and was hitting<br>&gt; on my
brother-in-law&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; (who is very married). The mother of
the<br>&gt; bride (husband's first ex) had&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
not eaten all day, took a<br>&gt; Valium before the wedding and
proceeded to get&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; totally trashed at<br>&gt; the
reception (not a pretty sight) and the second ex,&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; who
really<br>&gt; had no business being there but she invite

d 
herself, was&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; hovering<br>&gt; around trying to mingle
and most of them wanted nothing to do&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; with
her.&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; BUT...the ceremony itself was
nice. (deep<br>&gt; breath) So...that's one child&lt;br&gt;&gt; down and
five more to go. I hope the<br>&gt; others wait awhile.&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Kitty wrote:&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Well, I have
seen<br>&gt; some JB holes on a few of the leaves, but I don't
see&lt;br&gt;&gt; any&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; carcasses. They are
only just now beginning to bloom, so maybe<br>&gt;
their&lt;br&gt;lure&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; will be stronger as the season
progresses.&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Re&gt; That
was a LOT of work, let me tell ya&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Yes, please<br>&gt;
do!&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Kitty&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; From: &quot;Jesse Bell&quot;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; To:&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004<br>&gt; 10:30
AM&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; Subject: [CHAT] Re: self-sowers/still catching
up..&lt;br&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; Still trying to catch up on e-mails. I didn't read<br>&gt; them for
4-5 days&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; because of my daughter's wedding. That
was a<br>&gt; LOT of work, let me tell&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; ya.
Anyway...yes Kitty...I sent you<br>&gt; some Four O'Clock
seeds..thinking&lt;br&gt;it&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; would help with
the<br>&gt; Japanese Beetle problem you were having. Did
it&lt;br&gt;help&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; at all?<br>&gt; Or is that an
old wive's tale?&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Kitty<br>&gt;
wrote:&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; You know, I think it was Jesse.
Thanks!&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; Kitty&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
----- Original Message ----- &lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
From:&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; To:&lt;

br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:02 PM&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re:<br>&gt; Re: [CHAT] self<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
-sowers&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Probably Jesse or moi Kitty - we<br>&gt; both have them
all over the place!&lt;br&gt;&gt; Love&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 'em
though!<br>&gt; Anyone who needs seeds holler - I have tons of
them.&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Pam Evans&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
Kemp, TX&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; zone 8A&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; ----- Original Message -----&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
From: Kitty&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent:<br>&gt; 7/4/2004 12:46:29
PM&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: gardenchat@hort.net&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] self-sowers&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, maybe it<br>&gt;
was Pam, I know she grows 4 O'Clocks. Whomever -&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
thanks!&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
too bad about the sting, I hate<br>&gt; losing a day. Take care
of&lt;br&gt;yourself.&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Kitty&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- &lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From:&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To:&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, July 04,
2004<br>&gt; 12:07 PM&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] self-sowers&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &

gt
; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; In a<br>&gt; message dated 7/4/2004 11:41:05 AM Central Standard
Time,&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; kmrsy@comcast.net writes:&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; Balsam, yeah, I need
to grow that next year.&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I did not send you the Mirabilis jalapa<br>&gt;
seeds, but I surely do&lt;br&gt;&gt; have&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
a&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; lot&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Balsam. If you want seeds
remind me<br>&gt; later in the summer, and I&lt;br&gt;can&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; send&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; you&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; some. There's a weather alert on TV right<br>&gt; now. We
are expecting&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; strong&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; straight<br>&gt; line winds
and sever thunder storms this afternoon, but&lt;br&gt;I&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; think,&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; with all&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the<br>&gt; benadryl I took earlier, I'll never
notice.&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; zem&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; zone 7&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; West TN&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
&gt;&lt;br&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; -----------

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