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Re: AGM awards


> notoriously overpriced, like they are a subsidiary of Eli Lilly
You noticed that too, eh?

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] AGM awards


> There are two big annoyances that turn me off with PDF. The first is
> the formatting. No one who posts PDF files seems smart enough to reduce
> the margins from 1-1/2 inches all around; as a consequence, a 5 page
> Word document becomes a 15-page Adobe document that is 2/3s white space.
>
> The other is that many who embrace it want you to print out an order
> blank, fill it in with a ball point pen, write them a check, address an
> envelope, and stick the whole thing in the mail. In the last 4 years,
> I've used hand-writ checks twice, both times to buy seeds from places
> or persons who do not have Visa or Pay Pal accounts. And I intend to
> quit dealing with them [maybe I already have! I mean, two checks in 4
> years hardly makes me a repeat customer].
>
> But then, Adobe Reader is free. Adobe Writer is not. Maybe the trick is
> "If you really want to make these documents useful, sucker, buy the
> editing program. And, because most Adobe products have always been
> notoriously overpriced, like they are a subsidiary of Eli Lilly or
> something, it probably carries a hefty price tag. No wonder the
> airwaves are beset by pirates. Avast! ye opportunists!
>
>
> On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 07:40 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > It would seem so.
> > When I google something, I hesitate to open a .pfd file.  It takes so
> > long
> > to open compared to regular sites.  And the "Open as html" option is
> > often
> > difficult to read.  I am more likely to open regular sites.
> >
> > And the companies that put their catalogs online in .pfd!  I find those
> > difficult to use.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 4:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] AGM awards
> >
> >
> >> I would think they could use my part of the tax dollars to publish it
> >> in plain old ASCII. The last book I wrote for the "gummit" [as Reagan
> >> pronounced it] was deliverable in ASCHII.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 06:00 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >>
> >>> preferred, I suppose, because they are more protected against hackers
> >>> (I
> >>> would guess)  Also protecting their copyrighted work.  You can print
> >>> pages,
> >>> but not pull parts from them to easily insert in your own work -
> >>> which
> >>> is
> >>> exactly what I like to do.  Also for easy access by people using
> >>> various
> >>> platforms.
> >>>
> >>> I have compiled an 80+ page book for sale at our MG plant sales.
> >>> Books are
> >>> expensive to print, but a CD is cheap.  I changed the format of my
> >>> book from
> >>> .wpd to .pdf to put on the CD so anyone can use it.
> >>>
> >>> Lest you mistake my meaning, Jim, I do agree with you.  They are a
> >>> pain. But
> >>> they have the prerogative to use their preferred format.
> >>>
> >>> Kitty
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 4:26 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] AGM awards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> No... but isn't PDF a pain in the touche? Why these bloated files
> >>>> are
> >>>> preferred by, among others, government agencies, is beyond me.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 04:45 PM, Kitty wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone know where I can find a list of all or most of the
> >>>>> plants
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> have won the RHS Award of Garden Merit (AGM)?   I can get them at
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> RHS
> >>>>> website in .pdf form, but I don't really want to print 73 pages.
> >>>>> I'd
> >>>>> just
> >>>>> like to copy and paste into my own format; could then possibly get
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> down
> >>>>> to 15 or 20 pages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>
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> >>>> Zone 10a
> >>>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
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