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Re: Emily


This county too dear.  I'm sure there are people in Kemp who still
believe the Earth is flat.  Frightening.

On 7/12/05, Zemuly Sanders <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> Golly, David, I didn't realize you had met the people of this county!
> 
> Personally, I am astounded to think people believe such bad science.  The
> terrifying part is so many who believe this are home schooling their
> children!
> zem
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily
> 
> 
> > Hey Jim
> >
> > Interesting and goes along with my thoughts.  One word on what you wrote
> > about evolution:  National Geographic had an interesting article on
> > evolution and Darwin's journeys.  The author lamented that the title of
> > that breakthrough scientific work was labeled "The Theory of Evolution."
> > This gave the naysayers wiggle room  to denigrate it as merely a
> > theory...meaning just an idea rather than a firm scientific basis for the
> > study of life science.  Also, and I think I wrote about this a few months
> > ago, most shocking of all was that more than 40% of the American people do
> > not buy the theory.  A significant number believe that the age of the
> > earth/universe can be counted in thousands not billions of years.
> >
> > David
> > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily
> >
> >
> >> This may sound like I'm running for office, David, but I think it's both.
> >> In the short term, I think it's the cyclical crap shoot that weather has
> >> always seemed to be--the stuff of the Farmer's Almanac. But I think this
> >> is playing out on top of significant long-term change. A key factor in
> >> What's-His-Name Grey's, the hurricane guru at University of Colorado,
> >> prognostications is El Nino--and the occurrence, recurrence of El Nino
> >> seems to be influenced by the continual warming of the earth.
> >>
> >> The scary part is that these effects are cumulative. The worst of what
> >> you see today will be the best you can hope for tomorrow. It took a
> >> couple of hundred years of reckless fossil-fuel emissions to get us
> >> here--to the front edge of reaping our harvest; it will surely take that
> >> long a period of constrained stewardship to get us back to a less
> >> hazardous environment, or even to one where we can maintain an
> >> environmental status quo.
> >>
> >> David, the problem with "theories" is a rhetorical one. Two come to
> >> mind--evolution and global warming. They are theories because they have
> >> not been definitively proven beyond all doubt. Most intelligent people
> >> understand that caveat; most intelligent people also believe the theories
> >> are true or very close to true. The only significant deniers are the
> >> Kansas state school board and the current administration in Washington.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 12, 2005, at 6:58 PM, David Franzman wrote:
> >>
> >>> So Jim I think you and I agree about this greenhouse effect thing.
> >>> Everybody expects instant changes and when we have one hot period some
> >>> are claiming that it's because of the gh effect.  You and I both know it
> >>> takes more than just one season to prove or disprove a theory.  However,
> >>> I wanted to ask you about last year and this years hurricanes.  We're
> >>> off to the fastest start since recorded history.  Last year was a huge
> >>> year with a friend of mine in Gainesville being whacked three times.
> >>> Weather events are cyclical but would you consider the current trend an
> >>> anomoly or a direct result of climatic change?  Just curious if your
> >>> opinion has been altered over the last year or so.
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
> >>> <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >>> To: "Garden Chat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:19 AM
> >>> Subject: [CHAT] Emily
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Now it looks like Emily is heading for the Gulf. We'll know better on
> >>>> Sunday when it batters Cuba.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Island Jim
> >>>> Southwest Florida
> >>>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> >>>> Hardiness Zone 10
> >>>> Heat Zone 10
> >>>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >>>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >>>>
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> >> Island Jim
> >> Southwest Florida
> >> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> >> Hardiness Zone 10
> >> Heat Zone 10
> >> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >>
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-- 
Pam Evans
Kemp TX
zone 8A

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