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Re: Emily & teaching Science, or not


Eva: > I can tell you -- I am seriously screwed up as a result.
Rich: > I guess I could use that as a reason I'm the way I am.

You folks puzzle me.  Rich, you're fine the way you are (the man can dance!)
and Eva, you are anything but screwed up.  I had 12 yrs of parochial
school - religion class every day.  But I was fortunate that at the the time
they were still teaching that, above all, it is important to think.  Today
it's different.

The dinosaurs were too big for the ark, Eva, they'd've sunk it. ;+)
Threatening a teenager with excommunication for asking questions - using
your brain, Rich - is truly low.  I don't need to know all the answers, but
simple logic tells me the third rock has been here a lot longer than a few
thousand years.

Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <EvaTEsq@aol.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily & teaching Science, or not


> Holy crap!  I'm trying to catch up on email & I didn't realize you  guys
were
> talking about this subject.
>
> Sadly, my parents are rabid Christians and, as a result, I am a victim of
> this.  I was forced to attend religious schools during grades 1-8 and I
was
> taught that the earth is only 6,000 years old; that the geologic evidence
that
> the earth is really older all occurred because of the flood (you know,
Noah  &
> the Ark, rain for 40 days & nights, etc); and the Grand Canyon is a
result of
> the flood -- all of that crap.
>
> READY FOR THIS ONE? --- I was taught that evolution was a lie that the
devil
> wants us to believe, and that if I was tempted into believing in
evolution,
> as opposed to the creation story that the earth was created in 6  days,
that I
> will burn in hell & not be "saved", hence I would not go  to heaven.
(gasp!)
>
> I can tell you -- I am seriously screwed up as a result.  I can't  believe
> the creation theory, yet I am so screwed up that I don't believe
evolution
> either.  I am not a scientist by profession so thankfully this
information as to
> how the earth came to be is not 'critical' for me to get on  with everyday
> life, so I put it out of my head and realize that I'm screwed  up.
>
> My hubby makes fun of me, though, whenever we are watching the Discovery
> channel or any similar show that talks about the age of the earth.   When
they
> talk about gazillions of years ago, he turns to me & says, "Oh,  for you
that is
> 8 weeks ago."  LOL  It makes me laugh.  I  realize I'm ridiculously
screwed
> in the head about this.  I just have to  laugh about it.
>
> Don't worry David -- I'm NOT offended in the slightest.  I wish people
would
> just teach the kids science & not screw them up as badly as I have  been.
>
> Eva
> Long  Island, NY
> Zone 6/7
>
> Honor our dead.  Demand the  truth. _  http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/_
> (http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/)
> What is the Downing Street Memo?_
> http://democracyforamerica.com/memo_movie.php_
(http://democracyforamerica.com/memo_movie.php) _
> www.downingstreetmemo.com_ (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/)
>
>
> In a message dated 7/12/2005 9:23:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> hodgesaa@earthlink.net writes:
>
> 40%???  That's alarming.
>
> I had to teach a class on dinosaurs my first year out  of college at the
> museum I worked for. I had a Christian academy class come  in one day.
They
> brought their texts with them, and I soon found out that  the only reason
> they came to the class was to argue their point that  dinosaurs and man
> "walked the earth together." Their text actually depicted  a photograph on
a
> dinosaur fossil and a fossilized "caveman" footprint in  the same picture,
> thus proving that they lived at the same time according  to the text. It
was
> disconcerting to say the least, and of course I was  only 22 at the time
and
> had no idea how to respond with offending someone.  Now, I am NOT slamming
> the Christian religion, so no one start getting  upset please, but that
was
> way over the top. It amazed and appalled me what  those children were
being
> taught.
>
> Andrea H
> Beaufort, SC
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: David Franzman  <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >  Date: 7/12/2005 8:59:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Emily
> >
> >  Hey Jim
> >
> > Interesting and goes along with my thoughts.  One  word on what you
wrote
> > about evolution:  National Geographic had  an interesting article on
> > evolution and Darwin's journeys.  The  author lamented that the title of
> that
> > breakthrough scientific  work was labeled "The Theory of Evolution."
This
> > gave the  naysayers wiggle room  to denigrate it as merely a
> theory...meaning
> > just an idea rather than a firm scientific basis for the study of  life
> > science.  Also, and I think I wrote about this a few months  ago, most
> > shocking of all was that more than 40% of the American  people do not
buy
> the
> > theory.  A significant number believe  that the age of the
earth/universe
> can
> > be counted in thousands not  billions of years.
> >
> > David
> >  http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
>
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