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RE: Baptisa

Auralie, and others who live with deer, just an update on the DeerVik I
used this spring.  It continues to work - I've had no deer damage on the
shrubs I've hung it from and all my hostas remain intact.  This time
last year my shrubs were bare and the hostas completely devoured - not a
leaf remained. I have not yet gone about replenishing it, although I
will do so as soon as the heat abates a bit. Looks like twice a summer
will suffice.  Not much effort at all relative to the protection it
seems to afford my plantings.  We have 15-20 deer in our yard most
evenings munching on the clover and grass, but they do not go near the
'viked areas.  That I can live with.

Zone 7 - West TN

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Aplfgcnys@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:15 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Baptisa

Gene, the deer population in this area may be close to the human
population.  Until about 20 years ago, we saw deer occasionally. In the
years since, the populations - both deer and human - have 
exploded.  We have an acre on a wooded hillside, and the small
cul-de-sac community - now grown to 12 houses, is bounded on 
one side by Con-Ed's power lines and on the other by the Blue Mountain
Reservation - a county-owned undeveloped park area. Beyond that was
another large undeveloped area where my sons had eight miles of
dirt-bike trails.  That piece of property has now been developed with
million-dollar Mcmansions.  There is no hunting allowed in Westchester
County, so the only control of the deer is being struck by cars.  As for
their being starving - forget it.  These deer are so fat and well-fed
that each doe 
usually produces twins each year. Many people use electric fences, or
even eight-foot chain-link fences.  One of our neighbors tried both,
with poor results.  Our property is such that it would be almost
impossible to fence.  Deer are just something we have to learn to live
with.  I was once able to grow Baptisia, to say nothing of day lilies,
hostas, roses, and all those other good things.  Now I have a vew hostas
in a protected area near my doorstep - and the deer have stood on the
doorstep and reached over the fence to nibble.  Just be thankful you
don't have this problem. Auralie

In a message dated 07/27/2005 8:37:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
genebush@otherside.com writes:
Perhaps it is the amount of space available that is or is not there for 
the deer, Auralie.
    Your property may be more concentrated. I am out in the county at
edge of a small town. We have about 5 acres, bordered by a very large
on one side with a drainage area at the bottom lined with trees and
Another side is a woods I do not use and town property on another side. 
Still large woods not far from here and almost connected in places so
can travel. So, perhaps the deer that wander through are not quite so 
desperate for food and drink.
    but hey do come through... I see hoof prints in the garden all the
    Now we have a new resident groundhog..... under a brush pile at the 
corner of the property. We put the brush there for small animals, so
    Gene E. Bush
Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc

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