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RE: OT - If I can get through this - update

Amongst my relatives we have two little girls about the same age. My
niece's daughter, and my husband's nephew's daughter. My niece and my
sister are very adamant that their girl have good manners. She has
always been around more adults than children. Our nephew and his wife
have 3 kids and are extremely relaxed about discipline...for a long time
I called them feral children. The difference in maturity, educational
ability, and well, everything between the two girls is incredible. 
However, with age the feral children seem to be picking up some kind of
behavior ethics as they are turning into reasonable humans so all is not
lost. I don't see why adults would put up with the chaos they did but at
least the children show signs that they could be productive adults one
day, and for a long time I couldn't see that ever happpening. 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Pam Evans
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:06 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - If I can get through this - update

Agreed on the discipline thing.  Kids need limits and they need
You should see the looks I get from Shirley's daughter-in-law when I
remind one of her wild little heathens that it isn't polite to interrupt
conversations.  Shirley just cringes.  They can put up w/ that garbage
if they want to, I will not.  I've quit going over there for holidays,
Lord knows why they even invite me anymore.  Glad you made it through
everything unscathed.  I'll bet you were holding your breath a LOT.

On 7/30/07, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT
> Sounds like it went pretty well, really. How are fixes for the tree 
> damage coming along?
> Cyndi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On 
> Behalf Of Aplfgcnys@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:12 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT - If I can get through this - update
> Well, once more I got through it.  Things have held together pretty 
> well.
> My #1 son showed up Friday, a day earlier than expected, but #2 son 
> didn't come that day as he had said he would.  I was expecting him to 
> bring his son and stepson - both about 20, and his two teen-aged 
> stepdaughters, so had cooked a huge hamburger and pasta casserole.
> There's still a lot of it left, though folks have snacked on it all 
> weekend.  #3 son and family showed up Friday night, so I moved the 
> chicken-salad and gazpacho I had planned for the next night up to 
> Friday night.
> Saturday, the party at Teatown went very well though it got off to a 
> slow start because #1 son's wife, daughter and boy-friend who flown in

> from Seattle, didn't get in until 3:30 AM, and #2 son somehow got lost

> with all his crew and ended up going halfway down to the city - you'd 
> think he had never been here before, instead of growing up here.
> Anyway, Reka, my Thai friend and Claire, a "floral stylist" friend 
> made a terrific presentation.  The Teatown staff had been most helpful

> and had sent a large bunch of flowers, but Claire had really gone 
> overboard, as did Reka.  There were about 40 people, a good number of 
> whom took the various tours Chet had arranged for. There had been rain

> in the morning, but the skies cleared and there was a good breeze to 
> relieve the humidity and 80 degree temperature.
> Then, since we had cancelled the party at the house, we had only 
> family for dinner and the evening.  Claire stopped by, but didn't stay
> Somehow the house seemed about as full as it could be with the 16 
> family members.
> Thank goodness, they all stayed pretty civil.  The brothers had not 
> been together since #3 son's wedding 11 years ago, and #2 son has a 
> different wife and family since then, so there was some reacquainting
to be done.
> The two youngest grandchildren - Connor at 5 and Cate at 2, kept 
> people amused.  My older granddaughter and one of #2 son's 
> stepdaughters are both ardent horsewomen, as are their mothers, and 
> they had not met before, so that kept one sector pretty well occupied.

> I stayed in the kitchen most of the time, so don't really know what 
> went on except that noone came to blows though there were some loud 
> voices a few times.  I put food on as quickly as I could, because that

> always seems to improve their tempers.
> The amount of food they consumed was impressive.  I still had a large 
> bowl of chicken-avocado salad; another of potato salad; and I had 
> astonished my favorite butcher, from whom I never buy beef, by asking 
> for a 5-lb. rib-eye roast.  I really expected to have leftovers for 
> hash.  There wasn't enough left to make a roast-beef sandwich.  I had 
> to hustle around and refill the large salad bowl, and then they 
> demolished an ice-cream cake from Carvel.
> I must say I heaved a huge sigh of relief when they all finally left.

> I was glad to see each of them, but the whole thing has been a bit 
> much, especially with the other events of the week.
> We are supposed to go down to Cape May tomorrow for a couple of days.
> #2 son and family have taken a condo there for the week.  I'd rather 
> just stay home and try to get things back on track here, but Chet is 
> keen to go. I love the beach, but do sunburn badly.  I find 2-year-old

> Cate is a charmer, but 5-year-old Connor is a terror. It's not trendy 
> to discipline children these days, it seems.I don't really feel that 
> several days in a condo with them will be relaxing.
> Thanks for listening to all my ramblings.
> Auralie
> In a message dated 07/30/2007 10:04:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> holmesbm@usit.net writes:
> I'm just back from a trip, catching up on email.  Hope all is ok now.
> So sorry you lost the tree, plants, and must have roof repairs and so 
> glad that the tree didn't hit the house directly.  While they are 
> wonderful in providing shade and reducing temperatures, they certainly

> can cause problems when they fail.  Are things getting back in order?
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