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Re: Re: chat messages

Yep, seems he has both problems.  I plan to check with the vet.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> Kitty: Cloudy eyes are usually cataracts, which is a discoloring of the
> lens of the eye. Glaucoma is actually a separate disease, which is
> caused by increasing pressure of the intra-ocular fluid (inside the
> eye). Humans are usually treated for glaucoma with a regimen of daily
> eye drops...wonder if cats can be treated with same? You might ask your
> vet about this...it won't cure the disease but it does help to radically
> slow it's progression.
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Mon 06/07, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:29:05 -0500
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages
> Yes, I was a little confused because it was my impression he has
> had<br>glaucoma all these years as the eye got more cloudy with the
> passage of<br>time. Now the vet said it is a glaucoma. Guess I just
> didn't understand<br>the disease. The whole thing has me pretty scared.
> What if I don't notice<br>the tilt of the cornea shift forward? An eye
> "blowing out" on the poor<br>little guy sounds frightening to
> me.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Melody"
> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, June
> 07, 2004 3:15 AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages<br><br><br>>
> Kitty: Is that a glaucoma or something your poor Braveheart is
> getting?<br>Is that what is causing his cornea to tilt? Poor
> baby!<br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful
> thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>> --Albert
> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Fri 06/04, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net >
> wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:07 -0500<br>>
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages<br>><br>> That's sad, Melody. I
> had a similar situation with a German Shepherd<br>> years<br>ago, though
> he never hurt the cats. I had to put him down and<br>> it was
> so<br>hard. The cats accidents occurred at a young age, so I<br>> expect
> they learned<br>to cope and have taken it more or less in<br>>
> stride.<br><br>You mentioned the peripheral vision problem.
> Braveheart<br>> has always had<br>trouble with one eye and it was so
> cloudy I figured he<br>> could no longer see<br>out of it. Today he got
> his flea shot and the vet<br>> noticed the cornea was<br>now tilted
> back. He said I should watch to be<br>> sure it doesn't tilt
> forward<br>because the eye could blow if it did.<br>>
> Scary.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:<br>>
> "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:18
> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>> messages<br><br><br>> Poor cats
> c
> ame to us perfectly normal and healthy<br>> as kittens. We had an<br>>
> aging dog that objected to sharing his food<br>> with them and they
> both<br>> walked up to him when he was eating and he<br>> grabbed them
> by the head and<br>> flung them across the kitchen. Poor<br>> Miko (the
> himalayan) got a broken<br>> jaw and punctured roof of his<br>> mouth
> for his trouble. At the time, he was<br>> the only thing our poor<br>>
> dog had ever objected to...kids could crawl all<br>> over this dog<br>>
> pulling every which way on him and he wouldn't so much as<br>>
> twitch.<br>> At the time, we just thought it was an accident. A year
> later,<br>> with<br>> Katie the second kitten, when the exact same thing
> happened, we had<br>><br>> the dog put down. Turned out every one of his
> litter mates had been<br>> put<br>> down for brain tumors that resulted
> in unprovoked aggression<br>> and the vet<br>> thinks this is what
> happened with him. Almost killed me<br>> to put that dog<br>> to sleep
> but I couldn't bear the thought of this<br>> great big gentle dog<br>>
> whom we loved so much turning into a monster<br>> and being left with
> the<br>> memory of him mauling a kid or something.<br>> Funny thing is,
> every dog<br>> we've had since we've been looking for<br>>
> him...fo<br>><br>> und him in Sidda but had<br>> to put her down, too.
> Maybe we're just<br>> cursed when it comes to big<br>>
> dogs...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA<br>> (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most
> beautiful thing we can experience is the<br>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert
> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Wed 06/02, Kitty <<br>> kmrsy@comcast.net >
> wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:<br>> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun<br>> 2004 09:08:30 -0500<br>>
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages<br>><br>><br>> That's sad,
> but...<br>Being animals, they don't know there's a<br>> problem;<br>>
> this is just how it is.<br>Very good of you to take on<br>> such cats.
> They<br>> may not allow some grooming<br>from you, but I bet<br>> they
> have developed<br>> some trust in yo
> u.
> <br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original Message -----<br>> <br>From:
> "Melody"<br>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>>
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:16<br>>
> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>> messages<br><br><br>> I agree,
> Kitty,<br>> that for the most part,<br>> animals seem to sense when
> you<br>> want to help<br>> them, but this<br>> poor cat of mine was
> brain damaged when very<br>> little<br>> and he's<br>> not the sharpest
> tool in the shed, if you know what I<br>><br>><br>> mean...but we love
> him anyway. His "sister" cat has the same<br>><br>><br>> problem...brain
> damaged as a small kitten, now kind of slow<br>> mentally<br>> and<br>>
> she has some peripheral vision problems from the<br>> temporary<br>>
> blindness she<br>> suffered with her<br>>
> injuries.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> "The<br>> most beautiful thing we can experience<br>> is the
> mysterious."<br>><br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue
> 06/01,<br>> Kitty <<br>> kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty
> [mailto:<br>><br>> kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> Date: Tue, 1<br>> Jun<br>> 2004 09:22:52 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re:
> [CHAT] chat<br>> messages<br>><br>><br>> > ...if only he was able to see
> that<br>> one<br>> thing leads to<br>><br>> another...<br><br>I have
> several cats over the<br>> years and I have had<br>> the<br>> sense that
> somehow<br>they un<br>><br>> de<br>> rstand that when I'm doing<br>>
> something they<br>> don't like to them<br>> or<br>trying to aid them
> when<br>> they are afraid - that<br>> they<br>> trust me. They
> bear<br>with me, they<br>> sort of steel themselves<br>><br>> because
> they seem to understand I<br>must<br>> be doing this for a<br>>
> good<br>> reason. Hard to explain, but they seem<br>> to<br>believe
> that<br>> Mom knows<br>> best.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original
> Message<br>> ----- <br>From:<br>> "Melody"<br>>
> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>>
> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>><br>> Tuesday, June 01, 2004
> 3:45<br>> AM<br>Subject
> : Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>><br>> messages<br><br><br>><br>>
> Libby<br>><br>> : re: the cat with the long hair and snarls:<br>> I
> have<br>> a male<br>> seal<br>> point Himalayan who will not tolerate
> being<br>><br>> brushed.<br>> He<br>> bites...hard...whenever he feels
> like we've<br>> crossed<br>> over<br>> his line for<br>> tolerating the
> little bit of<br>> grooming he does<br>><br>> allow. So, we try to
> keep<br>> up with it as<br>> best as possible, but<br>> about<br>> once
> every year or so we take<br>><br>> him to the vet and have<br>> him
> shaved<br>> down to remove the twisted,<br>> snarled<br>> hair.
> Hair<br>> grows back in fairly<br>> rapidly and in<br>> much better
> condition.<br>><br>> Then we start all over again.<br>> Poor<br>>
> guy...if only he was able to see<br>> that<br>> one thing leads
> to<br>><br>> another...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody,<br>> IA (Z
> 5/4)<br>><br>> "The<br>> most<br>> beautiful thing we can experience
> is<br>> the<br>> mysterious."<br>> --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>><br>> ---
> On Fri<br>> 05/28,<br>> Libby Valentine <<br>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net
> ><br>> wrote:<br>> From:<br>> Libby Valentine [mailto:<br>><br>>
> L_Valentine@adelphia.net]<br>> To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> Date:<br>> Fri,<br>> 28 May 2004 21:29:58 -0400<br>><br>> Subject: Re:
> Re: [CHAT]<br>> chat<br>> messages<br>><br>> Hi<br>> everybody,<br><br>I
> got behind with<br>> chat messages<br>> about 4 weeks<br>> ago<br>> and
> even though I'm<br>> trying<br>to skim through 2-3<br>> days<br>> worth
> every night<br>> now,<br>> I still have almost 1800<br>unread
> in<br>><br>> my chat<br>><br>> folder.<br>I know I<br>> missed several
> birthdays, and a<br>> whole<br>><br>> thread on cicadas, which
> are<br>on<br>> the increas<br>><br>><br>> e<br>> here, and all kinds of
> other good stuff. Congrats on<br>><br>><br>><br>> the<br>successful
> plant sales! Welcome back DF! Welcome to the<br>><br>> other<br>>
> new<br>> members<br>who are joining in!<br>On the Short<br>> One,<br>>
> for one<br>> summer when<br>> I was little and tagging<br>> after<br>>
> my
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