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Re: Re: Re: chat messages


That concerns me some - poor baby.  Do keep us posted and let me know if I can help!

Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Kitty
Sent: 6/7/2004 4:27:56 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: chat messages

> Pam,

> I did just a little googling and found, "Glaucoma doesn't usually cause eye

> pain unless you have narrow angles. Persons with narrow angles may

> experience a deep, boring pain that can become an emergency if the fluid

> can't filter out of your eye."

> 

> This must be what the Vet was talking about.  He said the cat, all this

> time, was not excperiencing pain.  He pointed out the tilting back as not

> being a problem, nor painful - I'm guessing because of the angle.  He said

> if it tilts forward, there would be a problem - I'm guessing that would be a

> narrower angle, causing the above mentioned fluid filter problem - - which

> is what he meant by the eye could blow.

> 

> Anyway, even if he is safe for now, I worry that if the cornea is now

> tilting, even in a not-so-bad way, it is that much easier for it to tilt the

> wrong way as well.  I'm going to have to be more vigilant and check his eye

> every day for changes.  I may have to plan on spending some $$$ here. Last

> week's bill was over $300 and probably another $80-100 next month.  Not easy

> on unemployment, though I did plan for it.

> 

> Kitty

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>

> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:50 PM

> Subject: [CHAT] Re: chat messages

> 

> 

> > Really? Hmmm. I would think the pressure would be painful. Oh GOODY -

> > more thunder and another thunderstorm/wind/hail warning. Golly

> > gee-willikers I just can't wait for another fun filled evening.

> >

> >

> > Pam Evans

> > Kemp, TX

> > zone 8A

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Kitty

> > Sent: 6/7/2004 12:55:40 PM

> > To: gardenchat@hort.net

> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> >

> > > His opinion has always been that it doesn't seem to bother the cat, they

> >

> > > live a fine life without tinkering with it (his other eye is fine).

> Doesn't

> >

> > > think it warrants the expense.  However, I have to go back next month

> for

> >

> > > Slugger's booster shots and Bartonalosis test, so I will discuss

> >

> > > Braveheart's eye problem further with him then.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Time really flies.  I think I mentioned my 5 boys range from 3 to 9 yrs.

> Dr

> >

> > > says Slugger is barely 3.  But I just checked my files and Jack is 12

> yrs -

> >

> > > that's supposedly 81 in human years.  My guess on Braveheart is 10 yrs.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Kitty

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com>

> >

> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:00 PM

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > that is frightening, they can treat glaucoma in people, why not

> kitties??

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Pam Evans

> >

> > > > Kemp, TX

> >

> > > > zone 8A

> >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> > > > From: Kitty

> >

> > > > Sent: 6/7/2004 11:29:05 AM

> >

> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net

> >

> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > Yes, I was a little confused because it was my impression he has had

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > glaucoma all these years as the eye got more cloudy with the passage

> of

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > time.  Now the vet said it is a glaucoma.  Guess  I just didn't

> >

> > > understand

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > the disease.  The whole thing has me pretty scared. What if I don't

> >

> > > notice

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > the tilt of the cornea shift forward?  An eye "blowing out" on the

> poor

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > little guy sounds frightening to me.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > Kitty

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:15 AM

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Kitty:  Is that a glaucoma or something your poor Braveheart is

> >

> > > getting?

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > Is that what is causing his cornea to tilt?  Poor baby!

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > --Albert Einstein

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >  --- On Fri 06/04, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:32:07 -0500

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat messages

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > That's sad, Melody. I had a similar situation with a German

> Shepherd

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > years<br>ago, though he never hurt the cats. I had to put him down

> and

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > it was so<br>hard. The cats accidents occurred at a young age, so

> I

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > expect they learned<br>to cope and have taken it more or less in

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > stride.<br><br>You mentioned the peripheral vision problem.

> Braveheart

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > has always had<br>trouble with one eye and it was so cloudy I

> figured

> >

> > > he

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > could no longer see<br>out of it. Today he got his flea shot and

> the

> >

> > > vet

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > noticed the cornea was<br>now tilted back. He said I should watch

> to

> >

> > > be

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > sure it doesn't tilt forward<br>because the eye could blow if it

> did.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Scary.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:

> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:18 AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > messages<br><br><br>> Poor cats came to us perfectly normal and

> >

> > > healthy

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > as kittens. We had an<br>> aging dog that objected to sharing his

> food

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > with them and they both<br>> walked up to him when he was eating

> and

> >

> > > he

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > grabbed them by the head and<br>> flung them across the kitchen.

> Poor

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Miko (the himalayan) got a broken<br>> jaw and punctured roof of

> his

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > mouth for his trouble. At the time, he was<br>> the only thing our

> >

> > > poor

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > dog had ever objected to...kids could crawl all<br>> over this dog

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > pulling every which way on him and he wouldn't so much as<br>>

> twitch.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > At the time, we just thought it was an accident. A year

> later,<br>>

> >

> > > with

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Katie the second kitten, when the exact same thing happened, we

> >

> > > had<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > the dog put down. Turned out every one of his litter mates had

> been

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > put<br>> down for brain tumors that resulted in unprovoked

> aggression

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > and the vet<br>> thinks this is what happened with him. Almost

> killed

> >

> > > me

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > to put that dog<br>> to sleep but I couldn't bear the thought of

> this

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > great big gentle dog<br>> whom we loved so much turning into a

> monster

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > and being left with the<br>> memory of him mauling a kid or

> something.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Funny thing is, every dog<br>> we've had since we've been looking

> for

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > him...fo

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > und him in Sidda but had<br>> to put her down, too. Maybe we're

> just

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > cursed when it comes to big<br>> dogs...<br>><br>><br>><br>>

> Melody,

> >

> > > IA

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > (Z 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is

> the

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Wed 06/02,

> Kitty

> >

> > > <

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Wed, 2

> Jun

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > 2004 09:08:30 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat

> >

> > > messages<br>><br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > That's sad, but...<br>Being animals, they don't know there's a

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > problem;<br>> this is just how it is.<br>Very good of you to take

> on

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > such cats. They<br>> may not allow some grooming<br>from you, but

> I

> >

> > > bet

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > they have developed<br>> some trust in you.<br>Kitty<br><br>-----

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Original Message -----<br>> <br>From: "Melody"

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:16<br>> AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT]

> chat

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > messages<br><br><br>> I agree, Kitty,<br>> that for the most part,

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > animals seem to sense when you<br>> want to help<br>> them, but

> this

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > poor cat of mine was brain damaged when very<br>> little<br>> and

> he's

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > not the sharpest tool in the shed, if you know what I<br>><br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > mean...but we love him anyway. His "sister" cat has the

> same<br>><br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > problem...brain damaged as a small kitten, now kind of slow

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > mentally<br>> and<br>> she has some peripheral vision problems

> from

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > temporary<br>> blindness she<br>> suffered with her

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > injuries.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>

> "The

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > most beautiful thing we can experience<br>> is the

> mysterious."<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 06/01,<br>> Kitty <

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Tue, 1

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Jun<br>> 2004 09:22:52 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > messages<br>><br>><br>> > ...if only he was able to see that<br>>

> one

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > thing leads to<br>><br>> another...<br><br>I have several cats

> over

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > years and I have had<br>> the<br>> sense that somehow<br>they un

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > de

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > rstand that when I'm doing<br>> something they<br>> don't like to

> them

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > or<br>trying to aid them when<br>> they are afraid - that<br>>

> they

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > trust me. They bear<br>with me, they<br>> sort of steel

> >

> > > themselves<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > because they seem to understand I<br>must<br>> be doing this for a

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > good<br>> reason. Hard to explain, but they seem<br>>

> to<br>believe

> >

> > > that

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Mom knows<br>> best.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>-----<br>> Original

> Message

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > ----- <br>From:<br>> "Melody"<br>> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>><br>> Tuesday, June 01, 2004

> 3:45

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > AM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] chat<br>><br>> messages<br><br><br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Libby<br>><br>> : re: the cat with the long hair and snarls:<br>>

> I

> >

> > > have

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > a male<br>> seal<br>> point Himalayan who will not tolerate

> being<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > brushed.<br>> He<br>> bites...hard...whenever he feels like we've

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > crossed<br>> over<br>> his line for<br>> tolerating the little bit

> of

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > grooming he does<br>><br>> allow. So, we try to keep<br>> up with

> it

> >

> > > as

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > best as possible, but<br>> about<br>> once every year or so we

> >

> > > take<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > him to the vet and have<br>> him shaved<br>> down to remove the

> >

> > > twisted,

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > snarled<br>> hair. Hair<br>> grows back in fairly<br>> rapidly and

> in

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > much better condition.<br>><br>> Then we start all over

> again.<br>>

> >

> > > Poor

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > guy...if only he was able to see<br>> that<br>> one thing leads

> >

> > > to<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > another...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody,<br>> IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>

> "The

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > most<br>> beautiful thing we can experience is<br>> the

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > mysterious."<br>> --Albert<br>> Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Fri

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > 05/28,<br>> Libby Valentine <<br>> L_Valentine@adelphia.net >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > wrote:<br>> From:<br>> Libby Valentine [mailto:<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > L_Valentine@adelphia.net]<br>> To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>

> Date:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > Fri,<br>> 28 May 2004 21:29:58 -0400<br>><br>> Subject: Re: Re:

> [CHAT]

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > chat<br>> messages<br>><br>> Hi<br>> everybody,<br><br>I got

> behind

> >

> > > with

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > chat messages<br>> about 4 weeks<br>> ago<br>> and even though I'm

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > trying<br>to skim through 2-3<br>> days<br>> worth every

> night<br>>

> >

> > > now,

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > I still have almost 1800<br>unread in<br>><br>> my chat

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > folder.<br>I know I<br>> missed several birthdays, and a<br>>

> >

> > > whole<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > thread on cicadas, which are<br>on<br>> the increas<br>><br>><br>>

> e

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > here, and all kinds of other good stuff. Congrats

> on<br>><br>><br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > the<br>successful plant sales! Welcome back DF! Welcome to

> the<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > other<br>> new<br>> members<br>who are joining in!<br>On the Short

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > One,<br>> for one<br>> summer when<br>> I was little and tagging

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > after<br>> my<br>grandfather<br>> "helping" him with<br>> yardwork

> and

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > gardening,<br>> he nicknamed me<br>> "kid"<br>and I loved it.

> My<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > grandmother,<br>> however, did not, and<br>> after a couple

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > days,<br>that was<br>> that.<br>> So I think short one is<br>>

> great.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > And I'm glad her arm<br>><br>> is<br>better.<br><br>One of these

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > days<br>> I'll get current. In the<<br>><br>> br<br>> >> meantime,

> I

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > still have about 20<br>plants<br>> on the front porch and<br>> 7

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > yards<br>> of mulch in the driveway.<br>> Weather<br>this

> weekend<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > looks wonderful so I'm<br>> hoping to get some<br>> gardening

> >

> > > done<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > in<br>between other commitments.<br>> Anybody have a good<br>>

> trick

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > for<br>> getting snarls out<br>of long cat fur when<br>> the cat

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > will<br>> only<br>> rarely let herself be caught? She's<br>an

> indoor

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > cat<br>> but she's<br>><br>> psychic.<br><br>And boy do I relate

> to

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > annoyance with job<br>><br>><br>>

> scenario.<br><br>Libby<br>Maryland

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > zone 6<br><br><br><br>-----<br>><br>> Original<br>> Message -----

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > <br>From: "Kitty"<br>><br>> <kmrsy@comcast.net><br>To:<br>>

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:<br>> Friday,<br>> May 28, 2004

> 10:54

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > AM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] Plant<br>> disaster/ups<br>>

> versus

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > usps<br><br><br>> >archives<br>> show over<br>> 1700<br>> >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > messages<br>> this month<br>><br>> I thought we were<br>><br>>

> pretty

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > > chatty. Still, that's<br>> a lot better than what AHS<br>><br>>

> >

> > > was<br>>

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