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Re: Re: Re: now turtles

Agreed.  Worried about my nephew indeed.  And his mother.

Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Bell
Sent: 6/16/2004 10:20:59 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re:  now turtles

> OH *sigh* gosh...thanks for those words. If I think about it too
> long...I get that lump in my throat and my eyes tear up...so I busy
> myself. He is headstrong...with a huge lazy streak....but smart. His
> love is, and always has been (since diapers), airplanes. So, maybe he'll
> do the same thing. I hope and pray a lot. He says he does not want to
> follow in his father's footsteps (which I don't blame him) and he wants
> to see the world get "out there"...it is just so hard to let
> go...especially when I do NOT believe in this war and our reasons for
> being over there. It's just so politically WRONG. *again sigh*
> Thanks again.  Those words have helped me today.  A LOT.
> Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 06/16/2004 10:51:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> silverhawk@flash.net writes:
> Not sure yet. But he does not want to go to college (yet he tells me he
> wants to be an officer....I have informed him that he can't be an
> officer in the military unless he has a college education...won't
> happen). But when he turns 18, I can no longer keep him on my insurance
> unless he is a student. So, he says he will go to school while in the
> military (not holding my breath). It's tough raising kids....especially
> when they won't listen to a word you say. Some of them just have to
> learn the hard way. I'm just sick about the whole thing...not sleeping
> well...bad dreams. Hate it.
> Jesse I do know how you feel. My oldest son was the same way - very 
> rebellious and unhappy and headstrong in high school, and a definite underachiever 
> though he was bright. He joined the Navy at 18 - this was just at the end of the 
> Viet Nam war - signed up for 4 years. Even that was rough - we didn't hear 
> from him for 18 months. But, after some time in the Navy he decided he really 
> wanted an education after all. He began to take courses and collect credits - 
> enough that he got out a few months early to begin a regular school year and 
> the government paid for a lot of it. He returned to finish at SUNY Albany - 
> the toughest of the NY State schools to get into. Although he majored in 
> French and Cartography, he began working in the aerospace industry as soon as he 
> got out. Airplanes had been his love, and he was on a flight crew in the Navy.
> To make a long story somewhat shorter, he finally grew up even though we 
> often despaired. He has had an outstanding career in aerospace - now is 
> responsible for safety checks at Alaska Air. He has turned into a most conservative 
> solid citizen and attentive parent to his two children. When his son followed 
> somewhat in his footsteps and quit college after a year and joined the Navy he 
> just said "I wish he hadn't but what could I say?"
> By the way, if your son joins the Marines he may become an officer - they 
> draw them from the ranks, and will see to his education. 
> Just hang in there. I know how you feel - if anybody had told me when he was 
> 18 that my son would turn out to be the fine man he has become I would have 
> said they were crazy.
> Auralie
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