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Re: Donna's corner was: Plumeria-Jim picture-links- and ??

Re >  Acanthus is good tho' A.
> mollis would look best and I don't think it's hardy for you.
Well, I hope it is - I just bought one. Some refs say Zone 6, some say 5.
It is frequently sold here.

And if you're looking for big leaves in shade, how about Petasites japonicus
var giganteus,  Giant Japanese Butterbur?  I also thought about Rodgersias
and Ligularias - both hardy here.  I mentioned only the Acanthus, because,
well, the bear was just sitting there asking me to.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Donna's corner was: Plumeria-Jim picture-links- and ??

> Ummmm, well, Donna, dunno if I can get it that way that fast:-)
> OK...not hosta.  Kitty's suggestion of Acanthus is good tho' A.
> mollis would look best and I don't think it's hardy for you.  There
> is a gold foliage form - think it might be called something like New
> Zealand Gold - I got one year before last but it did not make it
> through the winter and I haven't been able to find it since...maybe
> it just proved to be not hardy enough and was dropped from nursery
> lists....oh well....A. hungaricus, which I think would be hardy for
> you with some shelter,  is more vertical - at least mine is until
> after bloom when it flops a bit and the leaves aren't as large, but
> it's a handsome plant for a sunny spot that drains well.
> I'd thought about suggesting Astilboides tabularis, which is hardy
> for you but needs soil that stays moist and some shade - at least it
> needs shade here; dunno if it needs it as much where you are.  It's a
> fantabulous plant; leaves can get huge if it's happy..
> Or - again needs moist soil - Darmara peltata...more huge leaves and
> a rather interesting flower in early spring.
> Seems everything I can think of that makes huge leaves and mounds
> wants moist soil and/or some shade....one of the Ligularias -
> 'Desdemona' or 'Othello' would give big leaves but again, wants damp
> soil.
> Rodgersia also has big leaves and a mounding habit - but once again,
> needs continually moist soil and I'm not sure about the hardiness
> rating on that one without going to look it up.
> Well, I guess you could stick a few Colocasia in there for the summer
> - treat 'em like annuals:-)
> So, can anybody else think of something large leafed, mounding habit
> up to about 2' or so tall that is hardy in z5 and takes sun that is
> NOT a hosta????
> LOL....hadn't thought about your being able to get your 300 lb item
> in there via truck, but that would make it a bit easier than trying
> to haul it over there.  I suppose it could be done with a really
> heavy duty hand truck....but it still wouldn't be easy!
> Just think, some day a few hundred years from now, some archeologist
> is going to be excavating in that corner and unearth your 2 whatsis
> items and develop some marvelous theory about the idol worshipping
> habits of our era:-)
> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> mtalt@hort.net
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> > From: Donna <justme@prairieinet.net>
> > Ok Marge-- can you make the space look like that by the time I take
> the
> > dog out in the am? LOL!
> >
> > I like the concept and that basically was the idea. But I am
> looking for
> > something other than a hosta. Have many here already.
> >
> > Not sure what ate the holly.. one day it was fine, the next it
> didn't
> > have any leaves nor where they on the ground. Like someone had
> lunch. It
> > does have a few at the base of the plant, so we will see. It's that
> > stick near the reed grass:(
> >
> > The entire spot/picture is probably 10X10.
> >
> > It was easy to get the '300lb thing' there... at the time there
> wasn't
> > any neighbors or a fence. So just backed the pickup next to the
> spot, it
> > has a lift gate on the back and three guys slid it off and
> straightened
> > it there. I wanted to add either a distinguished potted plant or
> > birdbath top... somehow the bear ended up on top instead for
> now.... but
> > that is easy to move!
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I decided a picture is worth, etc., etc. so took the
> liberty of
> > > mucking with your image...see what I'm rambling on about:
> > >
> > > http://www.mtalt.hort.net/donna/swcorner-a.jpg
> >
> >
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