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RE: time to vent! now "women's" work

Maybe one of the only good things I ever got from my dad, who was not a
nice person at all most of the time, was a sense that my sister and I
could do whatever my 5 brothers could do. He taught all of us how to
side and roof houses, how to do basic plumbing, carpentry, etc. A few
years back, when my brothers in law and husband were adding a deck onto
their parents house, it was me who had to show them all how to cut the
siding away from the house in order to make the face plate of the deck
frame fit snugly...none of them wanted to cut into the siding and ruin
it...fortunately, I knew how and they all watched with open mouths as I
did it perfectly the first time around! :-) I even put in my own kitchen
sink a couple years ago when Marty was laid up after shoulder surgery.
Course, I'm the kind of person who can't stand not knowing things, so if
I don't know how to do something and I want to do it, I just learn to do
it my own darned self.

Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Mon 06/21, Bonnie & Bill Morgan < wmorgan972@ameritech.net > wrote:
From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan [mailto: wmorgan972@ameritech.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:30:05 -0400
Subject: RE: [CHAT] time to vent!

I'll agree with your there, Kitty. Fortunately, Bill and I work well as
a<br>team. I've had neighbors come tell me to quit doing all that
outside work.<br>It made them look bad in front of their husbands!!!
LOL!!! When we were<br>laying out long and wide paver brick driveway,
some of the neighborhood<br>women seemed to avoid me, but the guys
seemed almost amazed that this shrimp<br>could tote and place and pound
concrete pavers and even make the saw cuts<br>right along side Bill.
<br><br>But then, my mom always worked right next to Dad on so many
projects and she<br>was a working mother in a factory at a metal lathe
during the mid to late<br>40's and into the 50's. Maybe I just had a
real good example?<br><br>Blessings,<br>Bonnie (SW OH - zone
5)<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
[mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf<br>Of Kitty<br>Sent:
Monday, June 21, 2004 4:45 PM<br>To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: Re:
[CHAT] time to vent!<br><br>> It amazing me that girls don't think they
or women are<br>> capable of using a pruning saw and almost insist that
my husband should be<br><br>Even with all the efforts of the women's
movement, some people still have<br>not moved forward. They still live
and breathe stereotype. Coming of age<br>in the 60s and 70s, the
movement did influence me in what I view to be<br>positive ways for the
most part. But I think, even without the movement, I<br>would not be a
"men's work - women's work" type. For the most part, if I<br>want
something done, I can do it unless it requires special knowledge
or<br>strength I don't have. I also think if you can eat, you can cook
and wash<br>dishes. If you can use a bathroom, you can clean one. This
is not the<br>women's movement speaking, it is just pure common
sense.<br>Kitty<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Tchessie"
<tchessie@comcast.net><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday,
June 21, 2004 11:57 AM<br>Subject: RE: [CHAT] time to vent!<br><br><br>>
It cracks me up when the ki

ds in my neighborhood ask me why I'm outside<br>> working (this happened
again last week as I was pruning a low branch off a<br>> bradford pear).
It amazing me that girls don't think they or women are<br>> capable of
using a pruning saw and almost insist that my husband should be<br>>
doing it. My husband and I however have a very clear agreement-
the<br>outside<br>> of the house is my territory. I only does something
if I specifically ask<br>> for his help. Mind you, I wouldn't mind if he
mowed the yard occasionally<br>> without my asking- but I can live with
that too. I have never had him<br>chop<br>> down, pull up or otherwise
destroy a plant. And he is a great sport-<br>after<br>> I've planted,
moved or trimmed anything, he's always willing to be drug<br>out<br>>
and view the new look. He smiles and says it looks great, even though
I<br>> know half the time he can't tell what is different.<br>><br>>
Theresa<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:
owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On<br>>
Behalf Of cathy carpenter<br>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 2:04 PM<br>>
To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] time to
vent!<br>><br>><br>> At least he didn't hit it with Round-Up! You won't
have blooms this<br>> year, but it should come back. Gary is dangerous
with any cutting<br>> instruments (mowers, weed wackers, etc) or
chemicals. He mowed down 3<br>> of my long established big bluestem this
year, and he supposedly knows<br>> the border of the bed they were
planted in. Any shrub or tree newly<br>> planted is marked with those
little construction flags - makes for an<br>> attractive yard!<br>> My
condolences,<br>> Cathy<br>> On Sunday, June 20, 2004, at 01:16 PM,
james singer wrote:<br>><br>> > Donna, my sympathy. But this is one of
the reasons Ms. Fatma and I<br>> > continually remind one another about
pet projects. We do much garden<br>> > stuff together, but there are
also lots of things we do individually<br>> > [she has only a
gastronomic interest in tropical fruit,

or example].<br>> > Talking and pointing help a lot.<br>> ><br>> ><br>>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2004, at 02:04 PM, Donna wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> I
know many of you on this list are --um-- single, and I may be too
if<br>> >> this trend continues.<br>> >><br>> >> Yesterday while I was
on 'the girls' road trip, DH who should not even<br>> >> be outside,
decided to help me in the garden....<br>> >><br>> >> He proceeded to cut
down my entire patch of queen of the prairie, a 5<br>> >> X<br>> >> 5 ft
stand about to bloom this week.<br>> >><br>> >> I came home, looked out
the patio door and had a fit!<br>> >><br>> >> He thought it was a weed
with seed heads and didn't want it to<br>> >> spread...<br>> >> it only
took me 5 years to get it to fill the area!...destroyed in an<br>> >>
afternoon.<br>> >><br>> >> Grumble, grumble....<br>> >><br>> >>
Donna<br>> >> I figured this list would understand why I am upset, seems
no one here<br>> >> does:(<br>> >><br>> >>
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