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Re: The First Zucchini; first tomato


Harvested my first pepper today.  Only have two plants in pots up front now
since I converted their bed over to xeriscape out back.  However, I do much
prefer 80 dollar water bills to 250 dollar water bills.

On 6/8/07, james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Bonnie, Cyndi--Yes, two seasons, but we start the second one [October
> planting] with new plants. Most tomatoes--with the exception of the
> wild tomato--just peter out when it gets hot at night. The wild one
> will produce heavily into mid summer before it dies off. We've tried to
> hold regular tomato plants, both slicing and paste types, over, but it
> doesn't work very well; they seem to lose vigor, have severe die-back
> in the heat, and never quite recover. We've even tried pruning them
> back... but the results were the same.
>
> Have to admit, I've never tried it with cherry tomatoes, because we've
> never grown them, but this year we have some in a hanging basket, so I
> think I'll prune and monitor.
>
> Peppers are different; they'll produce like crazy for 3-4 years with
> only modest attention during their summer siesta. Our Turkish pepper is
> into it's second year and is way more productive than it was last year.
> I started drying and grinding the little devils this year, and so far
> have about 8 ounces of powder that will peel your head like an onion,
> but makes great chili powder when diluted with sufficient paprika and
> other spices [cumano, oregano, thyme, etc].
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:
>
> > Do you not get two seasons of tomatoes?
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Date: 6/8/2007 1:11:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini; first tomato
> >>
> >> Interesting, Bonnie, and... amusing. I just harvested my last tomato
> >> of
> >> the season.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have just harvested the first of my soft-neck garlic...large and
> >>> nice
> >>> flavor.  Also, have my first tomato of the season.
> >>>
> >>> Speaking of National Geographic, you might want to see "A Passion for
> >>> Order", June 2007 issue on Linnaeus.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> [Original Message]
> >>>> From: Zemuly Sanders <zemuly@comcast.net>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Date: 6/7/2007 9:10:14 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini
> >>>>
> >>>> That was very interesting, Daryl.  Thanks to your observations in
> >>>> your
> >>> posts
> >>>> I've been particularly aware of bees and other small pollinators in
> >>>> my
> >>> yard.
> >>>> So far there seem to be right many of them.  I learned from the May
> >>>> issue
> >>> of
> >>>> National Geographic that the European honeybees were brought here by
> >>>> the
> >>>> English colonists so they could have mead.  The bees' ability to be
> >>>> nondiscriminating in their pollination has enabled us to have many
> >>>> fruits
> >>>> and vegetables that would otherwise be unavailable.
> >>>> zem
> >>>> zone 7
> >>>> West TN
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:12 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I used to have so many honeybees that I couldn't walk across the
> >>>>> lawn
> >>>>> barefoot when the clover was blooming, and the dogs were often
> >>>>> stung.
> >>> The
> >>>>> hum in my apple trees, or in the holly outside my window was
> >>>>> audible
> >>> from
> >>>>> several feet away. I'd listen to it as I worked with the windows
> >>>>> open.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The tracheal and varroa mites took their toll on honeybees here
> >>>>> over
> >>> the
> >>>>> years, but the other pollinators increased. This year, we had
> >>>>> plenty
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> Carpenter Bees, but not many Bumbles or Masons, and I have seen
> >>>>> only
> >>>>> 2
> >>>>> honeybees -one honeybee in April and one last week. Whatever the
> >>>>> cause
> >>> of
> >>>>> CCD (besides big ag trying to push hives to the limit), there's
> >>> something
> >>>>> else going on with the other pollinators here, too.  I'm hoping
> >>>>> it's
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> fluke of the weather, but - no apples, no holly berries here, and
> >>>>> that
> >>> was
> >>>>> before the big freeze.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> By the way, this website has some good no-nonsense stuff about the
> >>> bees,
> >>>>> for those who are interested.
> >>>>> http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mvanishingbees.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> d
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:44 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> About bees.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a friend who is a bee researcher at LSU. He says he's
> >>>>>> involved
> >>> in
> >>>>>> investigating CCD. He says the reports of 60-70 percent swarm
> >>>>>> disappearance are media nonsense and not supported by the facts.
> >>>>>> He
> >>> says
> >>>>>> "normal" swarm disappearance is 20-40 percent, and he suspects
> >>>>>> most
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> that is caused by beekeepers moving their hives a lot. He says
> >>>>>> moving
> >>>>>> hives, while profitable for beekeepers, is very stressful for
> >>>>>> bees.
> >>>>>> He
> >>>>>> also adds that the Einstein quote about bee disappearance leading
> >>>>>> to
> >>> the
> >>>>>> end of the food chain was probably not said by Einstein and, at
> >>>>>> any
> >>> rate,
> >>>>>> shows enormous ignorance about the "messy" science of biology.
> >>>>>
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> >> Island Jim
> >> Southwest Florida
> >> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
> >> Hardiness Zone 10
> >> Heat Zone 10
> >> Sunset Zone 25
> >> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >>
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> Island Jim
> Southwest Florida
> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
> Hardiness Zone 10
> Heat Zone 10
> Sunset Zone 25
> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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-- 
Pam Evans
Kemp TX
zone 8A

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