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Re: Joints (was RE: rough month)

  • Subject: Re: Joints (was RE: rough month)
  • From: Pam Evans <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:51:23 -0500

Interesting indeed and no laughing here either.  Moving from Carlisle PA to
Midland TX does wonders for rheumatoid arthritis too - mine went into
remission w/in a month or two.  Loved it.

On 6/1/09, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
> Auralie - no laughing here.  Lots of alternatives to try out there.  Back
> in the 80s my dad ate liver every day for lunch and it completely  stopped
> his arthritis (though in his case it just might have been the power of
> suggestion)  He did this for several years (Ugh!)  When he stopped, the
> arthritis eventually came back.
> With animals, placebo doesn't come into play.  It works or doesn't.  I had
> a German Shepherd with hip displasia.  We fed him alfalfa to  reduce the
> affects, but what really helped him was the acupuncture.
> Found this:    A placebo-controlled study involving 300 people that
> compared copper bracelets to bracelets painted to look copper had a
> surprising outcome.   A significant number of subjects who wore the copper
> bracelets said they obtained relief. The copper bracelets lost weight which
> could theoretically mean copper was absorbed by the wearer.
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aplfgcnys@aol.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Joints (was RE: [CHAT] rough month)
> You girls can laugh at me if you want, but I feel I must ask
>> Do you wear a copper bracelet?
>> On our honeymoon in 1952 we had a minor automobile accident -
>> ran into a mailbox post.  I was sitting with my legs crossed under
>> me yoga-fashion - no one had even heard of seatbelts in those
>> days - and slammed into the dashboard with both knees.  Both
>> knees swelled and were very painful - were x-rayed and shown
>> not to be broken, but the doctor said I could be sure to have
>> arthritis in the future.  Sure enough within the next five years
>> my knees were so painful I could hardly walk. One doctor said
>> it was not necessary to have x-rays - he could just feel the
>> crepitation with his hands.  I'm not sure just who got me
>> started, but I started wearing a copper bracelet that Chet had
>> given me before we were married, and another for the other
>> arm that I had picked up in a craft shop.  To make a long story
>> short, I am still trotting around pretty well fifty years later.   I
>> can't claim that my knees don't hurt, mostly at night, but it
>> seems more connected to a degenerated disk than arthritis.
>> Another interesting fact is that twice I have had falls, unrelated,
>> but both times the copper turned bright green with corrosion by
>> the next day.  Some doctors look at my bracelets and laugh, but
>> others look at my hands and say "well, you have no deformation
>> in your hands, so they obviously don't cause any harm."  I know
>> two other people near my age who wear them and swear by them.
>> I know it seems improbable, but they are not expensive, so why
>> don't you give the bracelets a try.  I have had numerous ones
>> over the years - some have been lost, some I have given away,
>> and a couple have just broken.  The ones I find most comfortable
>> are just flat bands, but I have had a couple of very pretty ones I
>> picked up in the Southwest  in Indian craft shops.  Laugh if you
>> want to, but I hope maybe this will help.
>> Auralie
>> In a message dated 6/1/2009 2:25:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> dp2413@comcast.net writes:
>> Glucosamine pills didn't work for me, either, nor for my dog, Annie. An
>> injectable form worked quite well for her for a couple of years. (This was
>> a
>> sub-cu, not into the joint injection. ) The vet said that some studies had
>> shown that the glucosamine tabs were mostly broken down in the gut so
>> didn't
>> get to the joint, but that the injectable form bypassed that.
>> I hear you about the stairs. I not only squeak, but sound like Rice
>> Krispies.
>> If you're having pain, ask your doctor about the Synvisc or Supartz.
>> Neither
>> are related to glucosamine.
>> My doctor prefers the Supartz - says it has a better carrier, if I
>> remember
>> correctly. I've also been told that if you use it before your knees get as
>> bad as mine that there are better results because it helps to prevent more
>> damage by cushioning it.
>> I had to give up hiking in my 40's. I  remember getting off the plane
>> after
>> some day-hiking in the Tetons, and my knees were so bad that I not only
>> couldn't stand the extra weight of my camera bag,  I had to support myself
>> on each seatback as I walked by. I got to the terminal and needed wheeled
>> help.
>> d
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson, Cyndi D Civ USAF AFMC 95
>> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:45 AM
>> Subject: Joints (was RE: [CHAT] rough month)
>> I'm getting pretty creaky in the knees too. I stopped taking the stairs
>>> a couple years ago because I could hear the grinding noise from my knee
>>> in the quiet stairwell and it made me cringe. Didn't hurt but I couldn't
>>> stand to listen. Now I'm getting pain occasionally while I hike and I am
>>> very careful about squatting down or jumping off my horse. I guess that
>>> glucosamine stuff doesn't really work; I gave it to my dog for years and
>>> I thought it helped her but I've read a lot of studies since then that
>>> say it's mostly a placebo.
>>> Cyndi
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Pam Evans
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zone 8A

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