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Re: Hello/now vegetables


Ha! David - trust me when I tell you - she is a vision. She made the
statement once that she looked like road kill one morning and our friend
Shirley quipped "if that's what road kill looks like, get the number of
the truck that hit her because I wanna look like road kill too!"

LOL.
I'm the one who looks like Fred Sanford after pulling still more weeds bent on world domination.



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:07:56 -0800

>Well you certainly ruined my visualization of what you looked like. 
> Thanks a lot!
>
>DF
>
>Jesse Bell wrote:
>
>> Oh man...me too...I was shuffling around like Fred Sanford yesterday 
>> evening.  I ate a bowl of cereal around 8:30....did not stop till 
>> 7:00-ish....took a shower and my husband I went to eat a really nice 
>> dinner and we crashed when we got home.  We worked our butts off.  The 
>> weather was  soooooooooooooooooo nice.  I enjoyed it.  But my back is 
>> letting me know about it.  Time for my good ole bath salts.  And yes 
>> Pam...I'm bringing more.
>>
>> Jesse Rene' Bell
>>
>>
>>> From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:56:01 -0600
>>>
>>> You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
>>> weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
>>> hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to look
>>> like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
>>> around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the rest
>>> of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
>>> coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do return
>>> in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I love a
>>> successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed them
>>> w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums are
>>> budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
>>> themselves this week.
>>>
>>> Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to wait
>>> until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"
>>>
>>> LOL  LOL
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600
>>>
>>> >Ya'll are cracking me up.  I hate brussel sprouts too.  My mother 
>>> forced me
>>> >to eat them once when I was about 6 years old.  She NEVER did that
>>> >again....caused I barfed all over the table.  I could NOT stand the 
>>> smell of
>>> >them, much less the taste.  Still don't like them.  Nasty.
>>> >
>>> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>>> >Claremore, OK
>>> >Zone 6
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>>> >>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
>>> >>
>>> >>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie!  I like virtually all 
>>> veggies
>>> >>but those are the two that I just don't care for.  Lima beans and
>>> >>brussel sprouts.  I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a 
>>> visit and
>>> >>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm 
>>> sure
>>> >>they're *gulp* better!
>>> >>
>>> >>DF
>>> >>
>>> >>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so 
>>> many of
>>> >>you
>>> >> >good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and 
>>> nutritious ways.
>>> >> >For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
>>> >>Brussels
>>> >> >sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched in
>>> >>boiling
>>> >> >water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with 
>>> a bit of
>>> >> >olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit 
>>> more time
>>> >>to
>>> >> >cut into bite-sized pieces.  Heat a flat pan containing a small 
>>> amount of
>>> >> >olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven.  
>>> Put the
>>> >> >firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet 
>>> potatoes in
>>> >> >first.  Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to 
>>> coat with
>>> >>the
>>> >> >oil, as it is cut up.  Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow 
>>> peas, green
>>> >> >beans, squash all are good roasted.  I usually combine four or five
>>> >>kinds,
>>> >> >ending with the tenderist, like snow peas.  The whole process may 
>>> take 20
>>> >> >minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >And then there are stir-fries.  Almost any combination of 
>>> vegetables with
>>> >>or
>>> >> >without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or 
>>> large
>>> >> >skillet.  I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened with
>>> >> >cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
>>> >>conventional.
>>> >> > As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to 
>>> make
>>> >> >Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still 
>>> covered
>>> >>with
>>> >> >about six inches of hard-packed snow.  At least I can dream.  Fresh
>>> >> >vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
>>> >>appreciates
>>> >> >them.               Auralie
>>> >> >
>>> >> >In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>> >> >mtalt@hort.net writes:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy 
>>> when
>>> >> >>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared 
>>> properly.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a 
>>> touch
>>> >> >>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than 'more
>>> >> >>or less edible'...they're durn good.  About the only veg I boil is
>>> >> >>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam 
>>> them
>>> >> >>too.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
>>> >> >>people used to boil the heck out of just about every veg....turning
>>> >> >>most of them into inedible messes.  Might also be they just didn't
>>> >> >>know about steaming as opposed to boiling.  This practice still 
>>> goes
>>> >> >>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental cuisines
>>> >> >>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me - 
>>> and
>>> >> >>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death' 
>>> family....too bad
>>> >> >>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if 
>>> fresh,
>>> >> >>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are 
>>> sweet
>>> >> >>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
>>> >> >>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
>>> >> >>butter, salt and pepper...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>>> >> >>mtalt@hort.net
>>> >> >>Editor:  Gardening in Shade
>>> >> >>-----------------------------------------------
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>----------
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion. aside
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>from a
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables as
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>near as
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a drizzle
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>of sweet
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible. 
>>> all of
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>them,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence of
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>which
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>for the
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>>picky folks that come here.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>Donna
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >
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>>> Kemp TX/zone 8A
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