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Re: It's over!/compost

Bonnie, the presenter of this talk had nothing but praise for the Ohio State
program; said they are way ahead of us.  They even offered him a free
program for computing recipes.  But he said he'd already purchased one
before that for $250.  The idea that OSU was offering it free was

Indiana had this big initiative in the mid-1990s to reduce our waste going
to landfills by something like 30% by the year 2000.  Yard waste was
separated and things were going well.  And then suddenly, they decided it
wasn't worthwhile.  Even bundled yardwaste just goes into the same truck
with all other trash.  A real shame.

neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] It's over!/compost

> Kitty, I'm so tickled your presentation went so very well!!!  I knew you
> would put on one very professional program.  I don't think you do anything
> half way.
> As for the composting in Indiana, I remember starting to get interested in
> recycling and conservation because of the efforts of the local government.
> Sometimes, when governments change or their budgets are downsized, they
> the focus of what a program saves overall or something else seems to be a
> better money maker for the state.
> I was very upset with how backwards Ohio was when it came to recycling and
> yard wastes and such when I moved here nearly 2 decades ago.  Now it is
> local government who has put on a large push to use composting and
> recycling.  Who knows how long it lasts.  However, for those who have been
> introduced to the ideas and the wisdom of such things, we can pass the
> information on to our children, our neighbors and our grandchildren.  If
> enough of a grass roots outcry confronts government, government will
> (at least around election time.)  Even if it doesn't listen, if the
> individuals continue what the government began, it will still make a
> significant difference.  The government doesn't have to do everything for
> us.  We need to take on more responsibility ourselves when either the
> or the interest isn't there.
> Well, that's my personal opinion anyway.
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> Of Fort Wayne, IN
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: chat
> Subject: [CHAT] It's over!/compost
> Dear Friends,
> I just wanted to write and thank all of you for your support, information,
> and treasures some sent, to help me with my presentation at the Home &
> Garden Show.  It went well.  I had an audience of 77; the MG who assisted
> stretched out my 60 booklet handouts by only giving one to couples.  The
> powerpoint presentation I had on a borrowed laptop connected to a provided
> projector and it all flowed seamlessly - except for the time I dropped the
> microphone.  I was happy I had samples of materials and bulbs to show as
> most of the other speakers simply relied on slides and I think some of the
> attendees enjoyed the opportunity to actually see and touch the materials.
> Thank goodness it is over, though.  On to real gardening.
> The last presentation yesterday was on composting so I thought I'd see if
> the speaker had anything new to say.  Well, it was nothing like what I
> expected.  He is the president of Hoosier ReLeaf and he showed videos of
> 38 acre composting site.  They compost absolutely everything - drywall,
> sawdust, manure, all building materials, leaves, etc.  He began this in
> conjuction with a local construction company when Indiana was pushing to
> reduce yardwaste going to landfills.  Then the state decided it didn't
> so of course, the construction company didn't care either and dumped the
> project.  This man, owner of a nursery, was able to scrape up enough money
> to buy just one of the machines.  And now he does it himself.  It is
> soooooooooo amazing!  I haven't seen the website yet, but you might like
> look at it:
> www.hoosierreleaf.org
> He explained how, if McDonalds changed just their straws, he could compost
> all their waste.  If Pizza Hut changed just their pop lids, he could
> everything.  But he can't get in to talk to the right people.  He sells
> compost for about $70 a ton.  He says they do the same thing in CA, but
> there they get $400 per ton.  When he worked with the county, he was able
> do 26 times as much as he can on his own, but he still keeps 14 rows of
> compost going all the time.  Unfortunately, he said the state is making
> new zoning restrictions and they pay force him down to only one row, which
> would put him out of business.
> How can Indiana be so incredibly stupid?  Separating yardwaste isn't
> difficult and the benefits are from here to the moon.  Instead, everything
> goes to the dump.
> Kitty
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