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Re: compost/recycling

Libby, I hear you.  Recycling here has very simple rules, but as I drive by
people's bins, I see something wrong in almost every one.  People will put
smaller items in plastic bags -  a no-no.  Egg cartons - not recycled here.
caps left on detergent bottles.  Here they collect recyclables on the same
day as trash, but only every other week.  It is picked up in a separate
truck, but jumbled together.  It doesn't matter.  Since so many people put
so many wrong things in, it has to be sorted anyway and I'm sure they did a
time study and found it slowed the pick-up too much to do it at curb side.

One reason our municipality doesn't recycle more items (only #1 & #2
plastics) is that they say only a small percentage of households do recycle.
They must have arrived at that decision by selecting a particular week to
count on each route.  However, I set my paper/cardboard out only every 6
weeks and plastics/glass/metal only about every 12 weeks.  I don't bother
with it until the bin is full.  So I probably got counted as a household
that doesn't recycle.

Downwind?  what a pain.  I always put the heavy paper bin on top of the
plastic bin so they don't blow away. The newspapers are so wedged into the
paper bags, they aren't going anywhere.

neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Libby Valentine" <grdner03@yahoo.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] It's over!/compost

> Way to go, Kitty, congratulations. I bet it was a great talk - big
audience, too!
> We have what appears to be a very successful recycling program in my
> town, but sometimes I wonder what really happens to all the collected
> material. They collect it in the regular garbage truck, and if they are
> behind (eg. missed a week because of snow or something), they'll throw
> the paper and the glass/metal in together. And I sometimes wonder about
> the lack of thought from the recycling participants, too: being downhill
> and downwind of the houses on our street, our yard collects, and we
> clean up, a large amount of stuff that didn't stay in the bins. It
> doesn't take much to rinse containers, I don't think, or to make an
> attempt to check the type of plastic, or even to read the material
> regarding what is recyclable and what is not. It's still a step in the
> right direction, though.
> Libby
> Maryland zone 6
> "Fort Wayne, IN" <4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> I just wanted to write and thank all of you for your support, information,
> and treasures some sent, to help me with my presentation at the Home &
> Garden Show. It went well. I had an audience of 77; the MG who assisted me
> stretched out my 60 booklet handouts by only giving one to couples. The
> powerpoint presentation I had on a borrowed laptop connected to a provided
> projector and it all flowed seamlessly - except for the time I dropped the
> microphone. I was happy I had samples of materials and bulbs to show as
> most of the other speakers simply relied on slides and I think some of the
> attendees enjoyed the opportunity to actually see and touch the materials.
> Thank goodness it is over, though. On to real gardening.
> The last presentation yesterday was on composting so I thought I'd see if
> the speaker had anything new to say. Well, it was nothing like what I
> expected. He is the president of Hoosier ReLeaf and he showed videos of
> 38 acre composting site. They compost absolutely everything - drywall,
> sawdust, manure, all building materials, leaves, etc. He began this in
> conjuction with a local construction company when Indiana was pushing to
> reduce yardwaste going to landfills. Then the state decided it didn't
> so of course, the construction company didn't care either and dumped the
> project. This man, owner of a nursery, was able to scrape up enough money
> to buy just one of the machines. And now he does it himself. It is
> soooooooooo amazing! I haven't seen the website yet, but you might like to
> look at it:
> www.hoosierreleaf.org
> He explained how, if McDonalds changed just their straws, he could compost
> all their waste. If Pizza Hut changed just their pop lids, he could
> everything. But he can't get in to talk to the right people. He sells his
> compost for about $70 a ton. He says they do the same thing in CA, but
> there they get $400 per ton. When he worked with the county, he was able
> do 26 times as much as he can on his own, but he still keeps 14 rows of
> compost going all the time. Unfortunately, he said the state is making
> new zoning restrictions and they pay force him down to only one row, which
> would put him out of business.
> How can Indiana be so incredibly stupid? Separating yardwaste isn't
> difficult and the benefits are from here to the moon. Instead, everything
> goes to the dump.
> Kitty
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