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RE: Okay, serious stuff


Right. In my case the outlet is way high up on the wall of the greenhouse
(so as to avoid watering it accidentally) and mounted sideways, so the timer
has a tendency to try and sag away from the wall. Plus the timers I own have
only the two-hole plugs for the output(I'm sure there's a real word for that
configuration) and my surge protector needs three.  So for now the surge
protector has to go to the wall outlet and everything else gets plugged into
it. 
But I can probably rig up something that's not dangerous, just need to give
it some thought. Maybe while I'm reconfiguring the place I can get my
husband to rig up another bank of lights. That is probably a job for next
month after I move everything out, otherwise I'm sure we'll end up smashing
a bunch of plants. But next year I could have a better setup. 

Cyndi


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of james singer
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:08 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Okay, serious stuff


No, no. What I meant was plug the timer into the wall, plug the surge 
protector into the timer, plug the heat mats into the surge protector.


On Wednesday, March 9, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 
AFFTC/ITSR wrote:

> Yes, I already have one of those. It's a little one though. You know
> how big
> those timers are, you plug it into one space but it's so big you can't 
> plug
> anything in next to it. So two of those take up four outlets on the 
> surge
> protector. I looked at some other ways to arrange it but can't come up 
> with
> anything that doesn't involve cables draped over half the workbench.
> I know I could get bigger mats, or heating cables, but I just haven't
> wrapped my mind around the idea that I want to spend more on the 
> setup. The
> little heat mats are pretty cheap, comparatively speaking, so I just 
> muddle
> through. I only start tomatoes and peppers, and a couple herbs, 
> inside. If I
> ever get motivated I'd also like to do my annual flowers. Maybe 
> lettuces.
> Salad season is pretty short here.
>
> Cyndi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> Of james singer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:35 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Okay, serious stuff
>
>
> Cyndi, consider plugging a surge bar into the timer and heating pads 
> into the surge bar.
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ AFFTC/ITSR
> wrote:
>
>> I have a little setup for starting seeds in my greenhouse with a 
>> couple heat mats. I don't put anything between the heat mats and the 
>> wood; if it got hot
>> enough to hurt the wood I would have cooked seeds for sure. I have 
>> been
>> using the plastic trays without drain holes to put peat pots in. That
>> way I
>> can water from underneath until the seedlings are up and ready to be
>> moved
>> out. I like the idea of the foil trays, though, the plastic trays tend
>> to
>> crack after a couple of seasons and replacing them with the aluminum
>> would
>> be easier.
>> My problem is that I really only need the heat on during the night. 
>> The
>> greenhouse is plenty warm enough during the day so I have timers on
>> the mats
>> to turn them on in the evening. I don't have enough power outlets
>> available
>> to plug in more than two timers so I'm limited in the number of seeds
>> I can
>> start. I suspect there are better ways to do this but I'm cheap enough
>> that
>> I don't want to spend a hundred bucks or so to get a more flexible
>> system
>> (this is probably one of those "penny-wise pound-foolish" cases).
>> I also don't have lights over the seed trays pretty much for the same
>> reason. That seems to work out okay, although I'm sure they would grow
>> a
>> little faster with the extra hours of light.
>> I don't put any cover over the trays either, the water at the bottom
>> keeps
>> everything sufficiently wet. I do have to remember to check every day
>> and
>> make sure they're not drying out.
>>
>> Cyndi
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On 
>> Behalf Of james singer
>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:17 PM
>> To: Chat
>> Subject: [CHAT] Okay, serious stuff
>>
>>
>> I think I'm going to clean up a big part of my garage workbench and 
>> install a seed-starting station. I've got seed beds outdoors for big 
>> stuff, like palms and loquats, but no really good place to start 
>> small seeds--peppers and cacti and such.
>>
>> The bench has fluorescent shop lights overhead and they can be 
>> altered so they can be lowered and raised as need be.
>>
>> The top of the bench is 2-inch by 12-inch pine/fir planks. I want to 
>> lay down heating mats or heating coils. What, if anything, should I 
>> put between the mats or coils and the wooden planks?
>>
>> I think I will put something like cookie sheets, the kind that are 
>> shallow pans, on top of the mats/coils so I can control both 
>> irrigation and humidity. I do not intend to enclose the growing 
>> medium [some variation on peat pots, unless someone has a better 
>> idea] in a tent or one of those little "greenhouses" since the garage 
>> never gets below 50 degrees.
>>
>> What else do I need to consider? What would you do differently? I've 
>> never started seedlings indoors before [bet it shows, eh?].
>>
>> What say ye?
>>
>> Island Jim
>> Southwest Florida
>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
>> Hardiness Zone 10
>> Heat Zone 10
>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
>>
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> Island Jim
> Southwest Florida
> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> Hardiness Zone 10
> Heat Zone 10
> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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Heat Zone 10
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