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Re: pruning cuts


Send an invite.  She is sort of a shut-in much of the time for the next 5
months.
Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pdickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts


> too funny!  wish she would join our little gardening group!
> T
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Apking" <red4@omni-tech.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] pruning cuts
>
>
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Martha's sprung, you otta give her a jingle.  I'm sure she's dying to
> > help.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> > Behalf Of james singer
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:48 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts
> >
> >
> > I use a bypass with an offset lever, which accomplishes the same thing
> > a ratchet does--creates extra leverage. This lopper is actually a
> > Martha Stewart special that I found at Kmart about 5 years ago. It's
> > all metal, which is the main reason I decided to try it. I had just
> > broken one of the wooden handles on a Corona. And it has been
> > excellent. I wish I knew who really made it; I'd look for more of their
> > tools.
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2005, at 01:03 PM, Fort Wayne, IN wrote:
> >
> >> Ratchet can be easier for those of us with less upper body strength,
> >> carpal
> >> tunnel syndrome, etc.  It makes the cut in increments, increasing
> >> torque or
> >> something like that.  Not necessary, but nice.  I think most gardeners
> >> prefer bypass to anvil.  The anvil type can tend to mash the wood.
> >> Kitty
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:55 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts
> >>
> >>
> >>> My loppers are bypass, but not ratchet. Are rachet loppers a better
> >>> choice?
> >>> Cathy
> >>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Fort Wayne, IN wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Cathy,
> >>>> Are your loppers anvil or bypass?  Ratchet?
> >>>> I use an old ratchet bypass lopper, never sharpened, that still seems
> >>>> to cut
> >>>> cleanly. Don't try to cut anything larger than it can handle.  If
> >>>> there is a
> >>>> little bit of stripping  left on the removed side, I clean it up with
> >>>> pruners. I haven't had that happen on the attached side.
> >>>> Sometimes I cheat and do use my loppers on something larger than I
> >>>> should.
> >>>> In that case, I cut only so far, then flip the loppers over, or move
> >>>> myself
> >>>> to a different angle. I position the loppers in the same grooves made
> >>>> from
> >>>> the previous cut, but now the blade is in a new area.  I may only
> >>>> reposition
> >>>> once, sometimes 2 or 3 times.  I know - I should go get the saw, but
> >>>> I'm
> >>>> kind of lazy that way.  But I do seem to still get a clean cut.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kitty
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:56 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have a problem with loppers - they never seem to cut cleanly for
> >>>>> me
> >>>>> (even when brand new), so end up with the same tearing of the lower
> >>>>> edge of the cut that would happen if I attempted to saw through
> >>>>> without
> >>>>> making three cuts. Any helpful hints?
> >>>>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
> >>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2005, at 03:47 PM, james singer wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Me too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Except it depends on the diameter of the limb. If I can get my
> >>>>>> loppers
> >>>>>> around it, I usually make it in one cut. If it's a job for the bow
> >>>>>> saw
> >>>>>> or the pole saw, then it's a series of cuts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Fort Wayne, IN wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If I'm cutting a long limb, I cut it off about a foot out from
> >>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>> the cut
> >>>>>>> should be made to get rid of the weight.  Then I go in and make
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> actual 3
> >>>>>>> required cuts.
> >>>>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>> [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
> >>>>>>> Behalf Of pdickson
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:46 AM
> >>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] pruning cuts
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I see so many people that don't make the cut at the right place on
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> collar.  He talked a lot about how that long piece will have to
> >>>>>>> rot
> >>>>>>> down and
> >>>>>>> when it gets going that sometimes it doesn't stop at the collar...
> >>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>> keeps on rotting until it kills the tree.
> >>>>>>> Another big point is to ALWAYS make several cuts to complete one
> >>>>>>> cut.
> >>>>>>>  Start
> >>>>>>> with a little cut from underneath... so that when you cut from the
> >>>>>>> top the
> >>>>>>> weight won't drop the limb and pull a strip off the tree from
> >>>>>>> underneath.
> >>>>>>> Lots of good information that I am remembering in spurts!
> >>>>>>> Tricia
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:23 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning question
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> one thing mentioned in the pruning talk here was that narrow
> >>>>>>>> crotches
> >>>>>>>> collect more debris.  More material sits in the crotch and rots.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>>>> neIN, Z5
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: "pdickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:23 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning question
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Donna,
> >>>>>>>>> One tip that has stuck with me from a pruning talk is to hold up
> >>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>> hand,
> >>>>>>>>> then bend down the little finger and the ring finger.  Now the 3
> >>>>>>>>> fingers
> >>>>>>>>> left are your tool to know which is the strong and the weak
> >>>>>>>>> crotch
> >>>>>>>>> angle.
> >>>>>>>>> The thumb and the first finger represent a good strong angle.
> >>>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>> pointer
> >>>>>>>>> finger and the middle finger represent a weak angle.  He gave
> >>>>>>>>> lots
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> reasons why that is so... like the first one has more room for
> >>>>>>>>> cells...
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>> really all I retained is which one is a good angle and which one
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>> try to prune out.
> >>>>>>>>> I hope that made sense!
> >>>>>>>>> Tricia
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:37 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] pruning question
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Well grab your favorite pruning shears and come on down :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> LOL! If you think that tree needs pruning, you should see
> >>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>> one!
> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> am
> >>>>>>>>>> seriously thinking of digging it out and trashing it since it
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>> small tree. A storm last year about took it out. It lost so
> >>>>>>>>>> many
> >>>>>>>> branches
> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> should have put it out of it's misery then.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Donna
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Pruning is one of my favorite garden chores.
> >>>>>>>>>>>     Ceres
> >>>>>>>>>>
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