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Re: todays experience


Well, I believe there's room for all kinds of businesses.  I don't shop
Wal-Mart - can never find anything there.  But we do have a Meijer's across
the street (same sort of place but regional) that seems to have everything.
I wish I had the $ to shop mom and pop types, but I don't.

One of the big reasons I'm out of a job is the big box stores.  They pretty
much ran off or bought up all the mom & pop 1 hr photos.  The small stores
cared about quality and used our products.  The big box places don't care
about the quality, so won't use it.  And judging from conversations I've
had, articles I've read, and studies that have been made, they don't need to
worry about the quality.  the customers don't care, so why should they?

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] todays experience


> I agree 110%, Kitty. But it's the vision thing. And most of them don't
> have it. I've always suspected that if the normally inept local
> merchants would quit whining about Wal-Mart and start offering value
> [instead of same-old, same-old], they could very well whup the Arkansas
> titan. If you read the NYTimes or the WSJ, you know that Wal-Mart's
> plan in invade real cities [as opposed to jerk-water towns like my
> neighborhood] has stalled again. They are frightened of competition
> from quality merchandise. There are lessons there. Mom and pop need to
> wake up.
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2004, at 05:42 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > Jim, you're right.  But a smart nursery buyer could spend a little time
> > looking for more options.  The min order qty can be overcome.  Green
> > Mtn
> > Transplants offers the ordinary and a few extraordinaries that you can
> > mix
> > and match all you want at no additional cost.  I'm sure there are
> > others out
> > there.  Doesn't Barry Glick - Sunshine Farms - do this?
> >
> > Also, I'm aware of a couple of small nursery owners who split orders.
> > They
> > are on opposite sides of town, so generally aren't competing for
> > customers.
> >
> > I think sometimes it can be the buyers' fault.  No imagination.  But
> > there's
> > a caveat to sticking with the tried and true. Small nurseries can't
> > compete
> > with the big box stores on the same merchandise.  Why pay $15 for a
> > Rudbeckia that you can pick up for $3.99 at K-Mart?  Specializing in
> > the
> > right area, creating your niche, is what will keep the little guy in
> > business.  Your specialty might be the kind of plants, or the service
> > or
> > even the ambience.  But it can't be the price.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] todays experience
> >
> >
> >> I think Lynda's got it right. Tried and true is safe and predictable.
> >> In addition, plants are perishable and there's the minimum quantity
> >> thing that make's it iffy to buy on speculation.
> >>
> >> This tendency on the part of the marketplace to standardize is what
> >> makes underground markets--plant society sales, farmers' markets,
> >> garage sales--interesting.
> >>
> >> On Friday, May 7, 2004, at 09:19 AM, Lynda Young wrote:
> >>
> >>> The owners I've spoken to in this area says it's better business to
> >>> stick with the well-known, comfortable plants that everyone
> >>> recognizes.
> >>> Not enough space or money to invest a lot in plants that most people
> >>> are
> >>> not familiar with.
> >>>
> >>> But, isn't that part of the fun of gardening?  Stretching the limits
> >>> and
> >>> trying something new in the hope of finding a great addition to your
> >>> plantings.  Unfortunately, it seems you can only do that through
> >>> mail-order in most cases.  Certainly not everything you get will
> >>> thrive,
> >>> but when an experiment works it is a real thrill.
> >>>
> >>> Lynda
> >>> Zone 7 - West Tn
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> >>> Behalf Of Donna
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:31 PM
> >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] todays experience
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah I am kinda worried about that.... There are so many more choices
> >>> via mail order, but I always wondered about that.. like if they are
> >>> really hardy and grow able here, why isn't any of the nurseries
> >>> carrying
> >>> them? I understand the big box stores only do the main plants, but
> >>> what
> >>> about the specialty ones?
> >>>
> >>> Anyone care to explain it to me?
> >>>
> >>> Donna
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Uh-oh, Donna.  Careful - you might get hooked with this mail order
> >>>> thing!  And, believe me, I know whereof I speak ;o)
> >>>>
> >>>> Lynda
> >>>> Zone 7 - West TN
> >>>
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> >> Southwest Florida
> >> Zone 10
> >> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
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