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Re: Re: /schools and Alex

DF: Which all goes back to my earlier point, about parental involvement.
If you had been one of those parents who just simply didn't give a damn,
your son (how nice for you!) would still be foundering and nobody would
be doing anything about it. But you aren't one of those uninvolved types
and he is doing better because of it. That truly is what it takes these
days...hands on involvement with the school and teachers. Now, what to
do about those progress reports that led you to believe he was doing

Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Wed 05/19, David Franzman < dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:
From: David Franzman [mailto: dfranzma@pacbell.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:23:59 -0700
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools and Alex

Ok Melody, last story for you: As most of you know my sister passed
away<br>last summer. Well I don't think I told you that my wife and I
adopted her<br>adopted son. He was the product of a drug mother and he
has learning<br>problems but a good kid in general. Anyway, at his last
school he had been<br>having problems. So, when he moved in with us we
met with all the<br>responsible people at the school and it was agreed
on that we would receive<br>weekly progress reports. Well we were
progressing along fine with comments<br>like "good" and "fine" or
"fair"! So, imagine our surprise when the real<br>progress reports came
out and he had two "F's"! Ho, boy was I p.......! A<br>hurricane ain't
in it. He apparently was doing the work at home but<br>forgetting to
turn it in and other such nonsense. In any case we got
that<br>straightened out in a hurry with the teachers. Now, I'm proud to
say that<br>the boy is getting all B's and C's and more importantly he's
liking himself<br>more because of it...and frankly that's a big part of
the importance of<br>education.<br><br>David Franzman<br>A Touch of the
Tropics<br>www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>----- Original Message -----
<br>From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:03
PM<br>Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools<br><br><br>> David: You are so
right...private education is a problem. But I believe<br>> you've
identified an even bigger problem...parental apathy. Look around<br>> at
the students you know who have successful outcomes to their
academic<br>> careers...how involved are their parents in their lives?
How many of<br>> those parents make a point of routinely going into the
school building<br>> and making it their business to seek out each one
of their kids'<br>> teachers and find out what is going on? Not waiting
for conference time<br>> to find out, but on a weekly or even daily
basis touching base with the<br>> people who take care of their kids 7
or 8 hours a day? And no matter<br>> what the cost t

o their own personal schedules, no matter how difficult<br>> or tough it
is to rearrange things to make sure they are 100% available<br>> to
their kids and their kids' teachers...that's the difference between
a<br>> child who will succeed in school and one who will fail.
Bottom<br>> line...much as I would love to be able to trust that the
government or<br>> the school district is looking out for my kids...no
one will look out<br>> for their academic, social, emotional life better
or more competently<br>> than I will so it's my duty to my kids to make
sure I am there, every<br>> day, no matter what. Period. And if the
teachers or the school find that<br>> intrusive (which they don't BTW)
then that's just too darn bad...<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z
5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 05/18, David
Franzman < dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:<br>> From: David Franzman
[mailto: dfranzma@pacbell.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date:
Tue, 18 May 2004 17:11:07 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT]
/schools<br>><br>> Melody (I'm sorry folks I realize this is a garden
group and not a<br>> soapbox<br>for political agendas) I think the
problem is in the reality.<br>> The reality<br>is that there are far too
many students in California who<br>> don't care and<br>whose parents
don't care whether they get an education<br>> or not. Fact is
that<br>there is only so much money and resources and<br>> the way we
casually spend<br>money in this country insures a bleak<br>> future for
education.<br><br>I've said this all my adult life: Private<br>> schools
are the bane of this<br>country. They guarantee unequal<br>> education.
Send Bill Gate's and Warren<br>Buffet's kids to public<br>> schools and
we wouldn't be having this discussion<br>right now. But as<br>> long as
we don't we lose untold thousands of bright kids<br>who don't<br>> have
the resources to a good education and hence fall through<br>>
the<br>cracks.<br><br>David Franzman<br>A

uch of the<br>> Tropics<br>www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>----- Original
Message -----<br>> <br>From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:<br>>
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:03
AM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools<br><br><br>> DF:
This is the result<br>> of a poorly thought out and woefully
underfunded<br>> "No Child Left<br>> Behind Act", brought to you
courtesy of our current<br>> government<br>> officials. In order to
continue qualifying for federal<br>> financial<br>> aid for school
districts, each school must meet grade level<br>><br>> requirements, you
know. Well, if a certain percentage of the<br>> children<br>> can't make
it and that prevents the school from getting<br>> funding, then<br>>
what is the logical step? To reduce the level of<br>> difficulty of what
is<br>> being taught to the lowest common<br>> denominator, i.e. dumbing
down. In<br>> it's purest form, NCLB would be<br>> a godsend to the
children of<br>> America...teaching them to reach for<br>> the highest
standards. In it's<br>> current bastardized version, it's a<br>>
nightmare! Political action,<br>> though...the strength of character
to<br>> stand up for what you believe<br>> in...is the only thing that
will<br>> change th<br>><br>> is unfortunate course of<br>> action our
elected officials have embarked<br>> upon. Write or call your<br>> local
federal and state legislators and<br>> demand that they fully fund
the<br>> NCLB act. Okay...off the soapbox<br>> now...sorry,
folks!<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>><br>> "The most
beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>><br>> --Albert
Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Mon 05/17, David Franzman <<br>>
dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:<br>> From: David Franzman [mailto:<br>>
dfranzma@pacbell.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Mon,
17<br>> May 2004 20:41:32 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] New<br>>
oleander/schools<br>><br>> No, no, no Pam! It's "Can I supersize
that<br>> for you!" Man, could I tell<br>> you<br>stories a

bout my kids school.<br>> They watch more movies than the<br>>
attendants at<br>the Sundance Movie<br>> Festival. What's worse is that
not<br>> only are most of the<br>movies<br>> out of context with the
class but many of<br>> them<br>> are...ugh...cartoons.<br>Now are we
talking about an elementary<br>><br>> school? Nope! High school.
The<br>coup d' grace was when my<br>> daughter<br>> came home from
school and she told me<br>that they<br>> watched, in Spanish<br>> class,
a Flintstones cartoon<br>> movie...IN<br>ENGLISH! Oh, it did have<br>>
Spanish subtitles. The<br>> schools are dumbing down<br>our kids and I
find<br>> it<br>> repugnant.<br><br>David Franzman<br>A Touch of
the<br>><br>> Tropics<br>www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>----- Original
Message<br>> -----<br>> <br>From:
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:35<br>>
PM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] New
oleander/schools<br><br><br>><br>> Agreed. I've seen what<br>> the local
public schools produce here - you<br>> want<br>fries w/ that?<br>>
Appalling.<br>><br>> Pam Evans<br>> Kemp,<br>> TX<br>> zone 8A<br>>
-----<br>> Original Message -----<br>> From: james<br>> singer<br>>
Sent: 5/17/2004<br>> 4:24:57 PM<br>> To:<br>> gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
Subject: Re: [CHAT] New<br>> oleander<br>><br>><br>> > Yes, they are.
And I think the Montessori<br>> environment is perfect<br>> to<br>>
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