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Re: Re: Re: /schools and Alex

David - good for you. That's a very fine thing you and your wife have
done. And definitely hold their feet to the fire. They needed to inform
you work wasn't being turned in. People on this list are so awesome, I
must say!

Pam Evans
Kemp, TX
zone 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: David Franzman
Sent: 5/19/2004 1:23:59 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools and Alex

> Ok Melody, last story for you:  As most of you know my sister passed away
> last summer.  Well I don't think I told you that my wife and I adopted her
> adopted son.  He was the product of a drug mother and he has learning
> problems but a good kid in general.  Anyway, at his last school he had been
> having problems.  So, when he moved in with us we met with all the
> responsible people at the school and it was agreed on that we would receive
> weekly progress reports.  Well we were progressing along fine with comments
> like "good" and "fine" or "fair"!  So, imagine our surprise when the real
> progress reports came out and he had two "F's"!  Ho, boy was I p.......!  A
> hurricane ain't in it.  He apparently was doing the work at home but
> forgetting to turn it in and other such nonsense.  In any case we got that
> straightened out in a hurry with the teachers.  Now, I'm proud to say that
> the boy is getting all B's and C's and more importantly he's liking himself
> more because of it...and frankly that's a big part of the importance of
> education.
> David Franzman
> A Touch of the Tropics
> www.atouchofthetropics.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools
> > David: You are so right...private education is a problem. But I believe
> > you've identified an even bigger problem...parental apathy. Look around
> > at the students you know who have successful outcomes to their academic
> > careers...how involved are their parents in their lives? How many of
> > those parents make a point of routinely going into the school building
> > and making it their business to seek out each one of their kids'
> > teachers and find out what is going on? Not waiting for conference time
> > to find out, but on a weekly or even daily basis touching base with the
> > people who take care of their kids 7 or 8 hours a day? And no matter
> > what the cost to their own personal schedules, no matter how difficult
> > or tough it is to rearrange things to make sure they are 100% available
> > to their kids and their kids' teachers...that's the difference between a
> > child who will succeed in school and one who will fail. Bottom
> > line...much as I would love to be able to trust that the government or
> > the school district is looking out for my kids...no one will look out
> > for their academic, social, emotional life better or more competently
> > than I will so it's my duty to my kids to make sure I am there, every
> > day, no matter what. Period. And if the teachers or the school find that
> > intrusive (which they don't BTW) then that's just too darn bad...
> >
> >
> >
> > Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> >
> > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> > --Albert Einstein
> >
> >  --- On Tue 05/18, David Franzman < dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:
> > From: David Franzman [mailto: dfranzma@pacbell.net]
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:11:07 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] /schools
> >
> > Melody (I'm sorry folks I realize this is a garden group and not a
> > soapbox<br>for political agendas) I think the problem is in the reality.
> > The reality<br>is that there are far too many students in California who
> > don't care and<br>whose parents don't care whether they get an education
> > or not. Fact is that<br>there is only so much money and resources and
> > the way we casually spend<br>money in this country insures a bleak
> > future for education.<br><br>I've said this all my adult life: Private
> > schools are the bane of this<br>country. They guarantee unequal
> > education. Send Bill Gate's and Warren<br>Buffet's kids to public
> > schools and we wouldn't be having this discussion<br>right now. But as
> > long as we don't we lose untold thousands of bright kids<br>who don't
> > have the resources to a good education and hence fall through
> > the<br>cracks.<br><br>David Franzman<br>A Touch of the
> > Tropics<br>www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>----- Original Message -----
> > <br>From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To:
> > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:03 AM<br>Subject:
> > Re: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools<br><br><br>> DF: This is the result
> > of a poorly thought out and woefully underfunded<br>> "No Child Left
> > Behind Act", brought to you courtesy of our current<br>> government
> > officials. In order to continue qualifying for federal<br>> financial
> > aid for school districts, each school must meet grade level<br>>
> > requirements, you know. Well, if a certain percentage of the
> > children<br>> can't make it and that prevents the school from getting
> > funding, then<br>> what is the logical step? To reduce the level of
> > difficulty of what is<br>> being taught to the lowest common
> > denominator, i.e. dumbing down. In<br>> it's purest form, NCLB would be
> > a godsend to the children of<br>> America...teaching them to reach for
> > the highest standards. In it's<br>> current bastardized version, it's a
> > nightmare! Political action,<br>> though...the strength of character to
> > stand up for what you believe<br>> in...is the only thing that will
> > change th
> >
> > is unfortunate course of<br>> action our elected officials have embarked
> > upon. Write or call your<br>> local federal and state legislators and
> > demand that they fully fund the<br>> NCLB act. Okay...off the soapbox
> > now...sorry, folks!<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>><br>>
> > "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>>
> > --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Mon 05/17, David Franzman <
> > dfranzma@pacbell.net > wrote:<br>> From: David Franzman [mailto:
> > dfranzma@pacbell.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Mon, 17
> > May 2004 20:41:32 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] New
> > oleander/schools<br>><br>> No, no, no Pam! It's "Can I supersize that
> > for you!" Man, could I tell<br>> you<br>stories about my kids school.
> > They watch more movies than the<br>> attendants at<br>the Sundance Movie
> > Festival. What's worse is that not<br>> only are most of the<br>movies
> > out of context with the class but many of<br>> them
> > are...ugh...cartoons.<br>Now are we talking about an elementary<br>>
> > school? Nope! High school. The<br>coup d' grace was when my
> > daughter<br>> came home from school and she told me<br>that they
> > watched, in Spanish<br>> class, a Flintstones cartoon
> > movie...IN<br>ENGLISH! Oh, it did have<br>> Spanish subtitles. The
> > schools are dumbing down<br>our kids and I find<br>> it
> > repugnant.<br><br>David Franzman<br>A Touch of the<br>>
> > Tropics<br>www.atouchofthetropics.net<br>----- Original Message
> > -----<br>> <br>From: <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com><br>To:<br>>
> > <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:35
> > PM<br>Subject:<br>> Re: Re: [CHAT] New oleander/schools<br><br><br>>
> > Agreed. I've seen what<br>> the local public schools produce here - you
> > want<br>fries w/ that?<br>> Appalling.<br>><br>> Pam Evans<br>> Kemp,
> > TX<br>> zone 8A<br>> -----<br>> Original Message -----<br>> From: james
> > singer<br>> Sent: 5/17/2004<br>> 4:24:57 PM<br>> To:
> > gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] New<br>> oleander<br>><br>>
> > > Yes, they are. And I think the Montessori<br>> environment is perfect
> > to<br>> >
> >
> >  b
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