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Re: Nice day/Florida vacation

Great...I've actually turned the planning of the vacation over to the
DH...it'll be his first time planning anything like this, but I am
overwhelmed with work and classes and whatever else, that he is taking
over many of the things I usually do. He did manage last week to
coordinate my son's birthday party and it went pretty well (only had to
give him a few reminders about stuff) and he is taking over doing more
of the household shopping (the 20 minute phone call I got from him when
I sent him for new sheets and bedspreads for the girls' room was kind of
funny, but he's learning!) So anyway...I'll try to get him to figure out
some kind of itinerary for our trip soon and let you know when we can be
at Marie Selby...Thanks again!

Hills, IA  zone 5

 --- On Tue 05/24, james singer < islandjim1@verizon.net > wrote:
From: james singer [mailto: islandjim1@verizon.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 06:31:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Nice day/Florida vacation

That sounds like a plan. It opens at 10 AM every day of the
week.<br><br>On May 24, 2005, at 4:58 AM, Melody wrote:<br><br>> Jim:
Sorry so late in replying...am way behind in the emails (almost <br>>
600<br>> now!). Am still in the planning stage for the August vacation
but those<br>> Marie Selby gardens you are always talking about look
like a great <br>> place<br>> to visit and are in the right area. Maybe
we could hook up there if I<br>> can nail down a specific date we could
be there?<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody<br>> Hills, IA zone
5<br>><br>><br>><br>> --- On Thu 05/12, james singer <
islandjim1@verizon.net > wrote:<br>> From: james singer [mailto:
islandjim1@verizon.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Thu, 12
May 2005 08:04:50 -0400<br>> Subject: Fwd: [CHAT] Nice day/Florida
vacation<br>><br>> Melody, this was returned twice. Dunno why.
Sorry<br>> troops.<br><br><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br>> From:
james singer<br>> <islandjim1@verizon.net><br>> Date:

May 12, 2005 7:58:44 AM EDT<br>> <br>> To:<br>> Melody@excite.com<br>>
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Nice day/Florida<br>> vacation<br>><br>> Let's do. I
should be here. Can't tell about Ms.<br>> Fatma. It will be the <br>>
end of her vacation and she may choose to<br>> spend it with her kids in
<br>> New England.<br>><br>> Also, if you<br>> decide to hunt for
sharks' teeth, I can loan you a couple <br>> of<br>> "Venice
snowshovels" that will make finding them a whole lot <br>><br>>
easier.<br>><br>> On May 10, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Melody<br>>
wrote:<br>><br>>><br>>> Jim: You are the best! And we've already <br>>
decided<br>> we don't care <br>>> enough about Disney to spend that
crazy kind of<br>> money on an amusement <br>>> park...we'd rather spend
our money<br>> elsewhere and see things just like <br>>> what you've
described. Thanks<br>> so much. Are you and Ms. Fatma going <br>>> to
be<br>><br>> around the third week in August? Would love to hook up with
<br>>> you<br>> if

possible...if not, we understand that,<br>>
too.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Melody<br>>><br>>> Hills,
IA<br>> zone 5<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> --- On
Fri <br>> 05/06,<br>> james singer < islandjim1@verizon.net >
wrote:<br>>><br>>> From: james<br>> singer [mailto:
islandjim1@verizon.net]<br>>><br>>> To:<br>>
mhobertm@excite.com<br>>><br>>> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:57:48<br>>
-0400<br>>><br>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Nice day/Florida<br>>
vacation<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I think there is a<br>>
swim-with-the-manatees place in Crystal River. I <br>>> <br>haven't<br>>
heard anything about them, good or bad; Ms. Fatma's <br>>> daughter<br>>
<br>has a friend who came down from Boston just to do <br>>>
that--and<br>> they're <br>pretty Green sorts, so I figure it must be
<br>>> benign.<br>> Woman I used to work <br>with was boating in the
Myakka river <br>>> <br>> one<br>> day about a year ago and a
<br>manatee came up right beside her <br>>><br>>

boat.<br>><br>> She said she reached over and <br>patted it in the snout
and it <br>>><br>> just swam away.<br><br>If you can resist all the
Disney hype, I'd <br>> <br>>><br>> skip it. It's very
<br>expensive--something like $55 per person per<br>> <br>>> day--today
just to get in. <br>Of course they've got a zillion<br>> <br>>>
"packages" to confuse the issue even <br>more. If you can't<br>> resist
<br>>> the hype, I would suggest talking with AAA <br>about it<br>>
before <br>>> deciding how much Disney you want. They got special<br>>
<br>rates on some <br>>> stuff, I think.<br><br>Mote Marine Lab in<br>>
Sarasota had a pair of <br>>> manatees last time I was <br>there.
They<br>> probably still do.<br>>> Can't swim with them, but it only
costs <br>a<br>> couple of bucks to get <br>>> in. Mote has a nice
little aquarium with<br>> <br>guided <br>>> tours.<br><br>I've got
visitor passes to Selby<br>> Botanical Garden I can <br>>> send you, but
<br>if you're an AHS <br>>

member,<br>> your card will get you in <br>>> there, too [I <br>think].
If you're <br>> not<br>> a<br>><br>> member and want to go, let <br>>>
me know.<br><br>The beaches from<br>> Nokomis [Casey Key] south to
<br>>> Manasota Key, which <br>includes<br>> Venice and Casperson Beach,
are good <br>>> for hunting for<br>> <br>fossilized shark's teeth.
Venice has a Shark's <br>>> Tooth <br>> Festival<br>> every <br>year. It
used to be in August, but I think <br>>> they hold <br>> it<br>> in
October <br>now--after the snow birds start <br>>><br>>
arriving.<br><br>If you're going to Captive, consider going to the<br>>
<br>>> Corkscrew Swamp <br>Preserve, which is between Fort Myers
and<br>> Naples, <br>>> east of I-75. Your <br>kids might get lucky and
spot a<br>> panther. And <br>>> did you see Edison House <br>in Fort
Myers when you<br>> lived here? <br>>> Interesting--house, laboratory,
<br>gardens--and<br>> not<br>>> expensive.<br><br>There's Myakka State
Park, which is east

of<br>> <br>>> Sarasota on the road to <br>Arcadia. I understand that
Selby has<br>> <br>>> installed a canopy "walk" there. I <br>get the
idea the walk is<br>> open <br>>> to the<br>><br>> public, but I don't
know for sure. <br>Anyway, there are <br>>> airboat<br>> rides on a very
large bulge in the river at <br>the <br>>><br>> park--guaranteed to let
you see alligators in their natural habitat<br>> <br>>> <br>up close and
personal :)<br><br><br><br>On May 6, 2005, at<br>> 4:11 <br>>> AM,
Melody wrote:<br><br>> Jim: I am a AAA member and never<br>> go <br>>>
anywhere without their help...I'll<br>> give them a call <br>>
today<br>> when I <br>>> get home so I can the stuff I want and <br>>
get<br>> <br>> some<br>> planning <br>>> done. Thanks for the reminder.
Sounds like we might<br>> be<br>> better <br>>> off selecting a central
location to camp at that<br>> is easily<br>> <br>>> accessible to the
places we really want to go to.<br>> Sanibel and <br>>> Captiva<br>>

are definitely a priority as<br>> we've always <br>>> regreted not
visiting<br>> there when we lived in<br>> Daytona that one <br>>>
year.<br>>> Also, I hear there are<br>> places<br>> where you can swim
with the <br>>> manatees (Crystal River was one<br>><br>> such<br>>
place, I believe) and IMO, <br>>> if this isn't harmful to <br>>
the<br>> ecology or the<br>> species, this is a <br>>> much better use
of our $<br>> than some of the more<br>> commercial <br>>> tourist
places like <br>> Disney,<br>> but we're still checking into<br>> that.
<br>>> What do you think of<br>> this idea? I'm seriously interested in
what<br>> <br>>> local persons<br>> think of this...is it bad for the
manatees to be <br>>> so<br>> exposed<br>> to humans? How does it impact
their environment? <br>>><br>> TIA.<br>><br>><br>> Melody<br>> Hills, IA
zone 5<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> <br>>> --- On Thu 05/05, james singer <
islandjim1@verizon.net > <br>>><br>> wrote:<br>> From: james singer

islandjim1@verizon.net]<br>><br>> <br>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 08:01:11<br>> <br>>> -0400<br>> Subject: Re:
[CHAT] Nice day/August in<br>> Florida<br>><br>> <br>>> Well, you won't
be cold. For August, the<br>> average high temperature is <br>>> 90<br>>
<br>[record is 97]; average<br>> low temperature is<br>><br>> 76<br>>>
[record is 68]; and<br>> there <br>is an average of 10 rainy<br>> days
[6 <br>>> inches of rain]. These<br>> averages and <br>records are<br>>
for Venice, <br>>> but the rest of the state will<br>> be similar.
So<br>> <br>don't forget <br>>> the sunscreen and the<br>><br>>
sunglasses.<br><br>The Gulf beaches are <br>>> delightful at that
time<br>> of<br>> year--the water is <br>about 80 <br>>> degrees, quite
like a<br>> spa. And there <br>> are<br>> lots of <br>>> interesting
<br>things to<br>> see and do. But the Florida Gulf <br>> <br>>>
coast<br>> is not like <br>> the<br>> <br>Pacific coast or the Atlantic
coast. <br>>> Much

of the<br>> Gulf<br>> coast--especially <br>the stretch from Panacea
<br>>> to Crystal <br>><br>> River--is<br>> salt march and not
<br>accessible by <br>>> auto except<br>> for a few isolated<br>>
fishing camps.<br><br>You might <br>>> want to<br>> spend some time with
a map and<br>> AAA's Florida Tour <br>>> <br>Book.<br>> If you're not a
AAA member, let me know <br>> and<br>> I'll <br>>> send<br>>
you<br>><br>> a copy. <br>The book is very good at describing points
<br>>><br>> of<br>><br>> interest--parks, natural <br>phenomena,
and<br>>> the<br>> like--as well as <br>> letting<br>> you know, by
omission, that <br>>><br>> <br>there can be long stretches of some
of<br>> these roads where <br>> <br>>><br>> even a gas <br>station is
rare.<br><br><br>On May 5,<br>> 2005, at<br>> <br>>> 5:04 AM, Melody
wrote:<br><br>> So, Jim...what is the<br>> weather<br>> <br>>> usually
like down there in Gulf Paradise<br>> say<br>> around middle <br>>>
of<br>> August? Now that we have a

reliable means<br>> of<br>> transport, <br>>> our trip<br>> south is
definitely on. Now I<br>> know this might <br>>> sound<br>> silly,
but<br>> since none of us have<br>> ever seen much of <br>>> the Gulf
Coast, we<br>> are<br>> planning on a<br>> driving trip down the <br>>>
coast, stopping whenever and<br>><br>><br>> wherever that takes our
fancy. <br>>> We did this a couple of years ago<br>> when<br>> <br>>
we<br>> went to <br>>> visit Tony in Washington...drove<br>> up
the<br>><br>> coast as<br>> far as we <br>> <br>>> could<br>> in several
hours, <br>> turned<br>> around and came <br>> back<br>> <br>>> down the
ocean highway,<br>><br>> stopping whenever one of us would <br>>>
go<br>> "Ooh...look at that,<br>> let's stop!"<br>> We ended<br>>> up
somewhere in Oregon <br>> a<br>><br>> day<br>><br>> or so later. You
<br>>> get to see the<br>> best darned<br>> places in this country<br>>
that <br>>> way...just driving<br>> wherever...<br>><br>><br>><br>>

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