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Re: Rain


I was beginning to think the list was down. I guess everybody is just busy these days.
zem
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rain


Echinacea actually is pretty xeriscape in clay soil. I have some that don't
get water for several months and still come back.
In the summer, they get watered every three weeks or so which seems to be
enough.


On 5/16/07, sundrops@earthlink.net <sundrops@earthlink.net> wrote:

Cyndi, yes my soil is rather clayey and definitely does not drain well in
most places.  Only a small amount of my land is "cultivated", so it is
nice
to have the wildflowers around the edges.  I forgot to mention a wild St
John's Wort which does grow in my watered perennial garden and also a wild
geranium which likes the water too but is shortlived.  And a wild morning
glory is blooming now too.
--Barb, Grass Valley CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Rain


> Don't you have clay soil or something like that, all the natives I > plant
> need well-drained poor sandy soil which is, of course, exactly what I
> have. I forgot I also have a few kniphofias in the dry garden, but I
> don't think they are as happy as they would be with a bit more water. I
> have a couple cistus in the teahouse garden but they don't really look
> like they fit there.
> I get poppies almost everywhere in a good year, even in the veggie
> garden, but none of the other wildflowers will move into the cultivated
> areas.
>
> Cyndi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of sundrops@earthlink.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:17 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rain
>
> Hi Cyndi, thanks so much for the plant list.  Quite a few of these I
> have -- just one or two plants.  I'm pretty well up on what the natives
> around here are.  My over-arching problem is the poor soil, for just
> about everything!
> which I am not likely to do a good job remedying at this point in my
> life.
> I have several salvia and lavenders are doing very well, also catmints
> and echinacea (not "dry", I know).  Also have a phlomis planted last
> fall that is going great guns.  My main shrubs are cistus --- they do
> super.  Once again did not get any poppies planted -- would love to get
> them naturalized.
> HAve one penstemon which sank last year but is coming back well this
> spring and am going to try more. I actually had a native buckwheat > when > I lived the Bay Area and it did great -- have not managed to acquire > any
> more for
> here but I love the plants.   Blooming wild now are muleears, a local
> achillea, and a patch of monardella just about to pop, some brodaeia
> (not sure which).  Thanks for the info!
> --Barb, Grass Valley, CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Rain
>
>
>>I have lots of salvias - salvia clevelandii looks the best, also s.
>> greggii is happy as it's reseeding itself, s.leucophylla, s.
>> pachyphylla, s.dorrii, s. spathacea. Some penstemons - p.palmeri does
>> the best it also is reseeding, p.strictus, p.heterophyllus. I've tried
>> other penstemons but they don't last long. Russian sage, texas ranger,
>> hesperaloe, buckwheat (Eriogonum umbellatum and e.fasciculatum),
> Apache
>> plume (Fallugia paradoxa), spanish lavender, common sage (but it's
>> struggling), caesalpinia gilliesii, and zauschneria. I have desert
>> willow (Chilopsis linearis) and silk tree (Albizia julibrissin),
>> although the silk trees were there before I decided it was a
> xeriscape.
>> They've managed okay. Couple of agaves but the gophers are eventually
>> going to eat them as they've done all the rest, and one opuntia cactus
>> that may or may not recover from the Big Freeze. I put out Bulbine
>> frutescens as well but I think that's going to end up as an annual. I
>> have one ornamental grass but I can't remember what it is, probably
> some
>> variety of pennisetum. Dune primrose (Oenothera deltoides) appeared in
>> the garden and is rapidly spreading, it does not seem to choke out
>> anything so I leave it as it's quite attractive in bloom. Usually
> there
>> are California poppies but not this year, I should have watered during
>> the winter. I would love to have Datura but so far none of the seed
> pods
>> I've collected have produced any plants, and I'd like ceanothus but
>> haven't been able to get one to live so far.
>> If you're looking for CA natives check out the Las Pilitas web site,
>> they are very informative about what grows where - pages and pages of
>> plant communities are listed. Plug in your ZIP code and they will tell
>> you what is native to your area.
>>
>> Cyndi
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
>> Behalf Of sundrops@earthlink.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:30 AM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rain
>>
>> Cyndi, what do you have in your dry garden?  We're not in the same
>> planting zones, but thought there might be some overlap and ideas for
> me
>> -- --Barb, Grass Valley CA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:13 AM
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Rain
>>
>>
>>> No rain here, and likely no chance of any until next year. We went
>>> camping in the mountains this weekend and while there is water in
> most
>>
>>> of the streams it is very dry up there. My sister says she will be
>>> surprised if they don't close the whole area around mid-summer.
>>> I planted 33 chile pepper plants last night, along with about the
> same
>>
>>> number of bell peppers on Friday. Both beds are covered with Reemay
>>> but I ran out so I had to uncover the soybeans to take care of the
>> peppers.
>>> Hope the rabbits don't go after the soybean plants but they are good
>>> size by now so I am not too too apprehensive. We haven't yet received
>>> the zapper thing my husband ordered so I'm still protecting
> everything
>>
>>> with Reemay and chicken wire.
>>> Aside from the lettuce and the peas, most things in the veggie garden
>>> look okay. But I haven't uncovered the corn in weeks so I don't know
>>> what's going on under there, I'll have to check it out before I go to
>>> New Mexico next week. I got most of the roses deadheaded and that's
>>> about all I've managed to do in the front. Husband says if I leave
> him
>>
>>> a list while I'm gone he will do some work in the evenings. What a
>>> guy. He can recognize grass so perhaps I'll ask him to weed the dry
>>> garden, if I say pull only grass it should be safe enough.
>>>
>>> Cyndi
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
>>> Behalf Of james singer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:53 PM
>>> To: Garden Chat
>>> Subject: [CHAT] Rain
>>>
>>> Two showers today, but taken together, less than a half inch of
> water.
>>> Of course, if we could get that every day, it would be nice. I
>>> wouldn't have to worry about watering the stuff in pots and hanging
>> baskets.
>>>
>>> And speaking of hanging baskets, I noticed today that our Garten
> Perle
>>
>>> cherry tomato has about a dozen green fruits. This is one T&M
>>> recommended for hanging baskets, so it looks like they were right
>>> although the plant is a bit rangy at this point. Maybe it will get
>>> droopy as it gets bigger.
>>>
>>> Island Jim
>>> Southwest Florida
>>> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
>>> Hardiness Zone 10
>>> Heat Zone 10
>>> Sunset Zone 25
>>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
>>> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
>>>
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    • Re: Rain
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      • From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
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      • From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
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