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RE: OT:now independence/Girl Scouts

I thought of that too, but in reality I'm going to have my hands full, what
with caring for a very bright busy 4 year old, and a two year old (who is
the reincarnation of my sister and myself) who broke her foot last week and
is in a walking cast.  I'm sure I'll have great fun, but will need to catch
up on sleep when I get home!


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:17 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT:now independence/Girl Scouts

I wish Austin was closer - would love to get together!!

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Theresa" <tchessie@comcast.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:12:59 -0800

>Oh yeah- my mom knows.. : ).  In fact I'll be down in TX next week to take
>care of my nieces and see my mom.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of Melody
>Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:24 AM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT:now independence/Girl Scouts
>Theresa: Wow! Isn't it amazing the power that people have to influence
>the lives of others...for good or bad...just by the way they go about
>living their own lives? I think that if more people were aware of the
>lessons that kids eventually take away from childhood, especially the
>subconscious ones, they might be more respectful of the example they are
>setting for those little ones. This is where professional athletes who
>do drugs and get into trouble with the law and then obnoxiously announce
>the fact that they never set out to be anyone's role model really,
>really get it wrong!
>I sure hope you've told all this to your mom...sounds like she certainly
>deserves to hear it!
>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
>--Albert Einstein
> --- On Tue 11/25, Theresa < tchessie@comcast.net > wrote:
>From: Theresa [mailto: tchessie@comcast.net]
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:19:34 -0800
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT:now independence/Girl Scouts
>Funny you should mention that- I was a girl scout (and still am a
>life<br>member) thoughout school even through high school. I went to
>National<br>Center West, the annual conventions at the state and
>national level, camped<br>a ton, met lots of wonderful people, and still
>have both a vest and sash<br>covered with badges. My mom was a leader
>part of the time, and regardless<br>of that I still would have gotten my
>sense of self-reliance from her. She<br>did anything that needed to be
>done inside or outside the house, fixed<br>things, worked hard, even
>taught us how to fish and enjoyed all of it. I am<br>eternally grateful
>to her for living like she did and showing us what we<br>could do. Oh
>course as a kid I had no idea this is what she was doing, we<br>we just
>living and growing up. She still is happiest outside in the yard,<br>and
>cares for her own small yard, and then goes over to my younger
>sister's<br>house and cleans up her garden beds too (my sister doesn't
>do much in them<br>on purpose becuase she knows my mom likes to do it).
>So, yeah for being<br>self-sufficient. My mom is now 71. When she was in
>high school she applied<br>and won a nursing school scholarship- moved
>herself to Washington DC from<br>Florida just as she turned 17, and has
>been making her own path ever since.<br>Thank god my mom is a brave and
>persistant woman, who knows what I'd be like<br>otherwise- she came from
>a family who was poorly educated, lived in a small<br>southern town that
>embraced segragation and prejudice of all kinds, and her<br>mother spent
>most of her time waiting for my grandfather to come home from<br>work,
>going to the hairdresser and reading trashy novels. I have no
>idea<br>how my mom managed to escape all of the above- my only guess is
>that the<br>little time she spent with her great grandmother (who was a
>tiny woman, yet<br>totally independent and running a farm) really must
>have had a huge impact.<br><br>Ok- I'm done
>now.<br><br>Theresa<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
>t [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On<br>Behalf Of Melody<br>Sent:
>Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:50 AM<br>To:
>gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: RE: [CHAT] throw away society now
>independence<br><br><br>This is one of my biggest reasons for being
>involved with Girl Scouts as<br>both a leader and a parent...it's
>important to me that my girls and<br>their friends who choose to be
>involved in Girl Scouts learn early that<br>the road to self esteem lies
>in their ability to do for themselves...as<br>a troop leader I find
>enjoyment in watching the girls learning to be<br>self sufficient and
>capable in many arenas that will serve them well
>as<br>adults.<br><br><br><br>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br><br>"The most
>beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>--Albert
>Einstein<br><br> --- On Fri 11/21, Theresa < tchessie@comcast.net >
>wrote:<br>From: Theresa [mailto: tchessie@comcast.net]<br>To:
>gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:15:03 -0800<br>Subject:
>RE: [CHAT] throw away society<br><br>I'll second that! I am delighted
>that I can replace a kitchen faucet,<br>haul<br>shrubs out of the
>ground, and still occassionally catch guys<br>watching me<br>walk across
>the grocery store parking lot when I'm in a<br>pair of heels.<br>Thank
>god my husband is also an independent thinking<br>person- and not in
>the<br>least threatened by my tendency to do what<br>ever comes to mind.
>(Although he<br>did fuss at me when I nearly got<br>crushed underneath
>the yard waste barrel<br>becuase I had put about 400<br>lbs of stuff in
>it and then tried to move it all<br>by myself :) It<br>cracks me up when
>my male neighbor across the street wants<br>to know<br>where my husband
>is when I'm out working in the yard and garden-<br>It<br>is my project,
>not my husbands! It worries my thought when his 11<br>year
>old<br>daughter doesn't understand this- maybe eventually a little<br>of
>my influence<br>will rub off
><br>Behalf<br>Of Pamela J. Evans<br>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:10
>PM<br>To:<br>gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: RE: [CHAT] throw
>away<br>society<br><br><br>Amen to that Donna. My mother once said to
>me, not<br>too many years ago,<br>that she wondered if she raised us to
>be too<br>independent! I told her -<br>absolutely not. Can't be too
>independent.<br>That would like being too into<br>gardening -
>can't<br>happen!!<br><br><br>LOL<br><br>---------- Original
>Message<br>----------------------------------<br>From: "Donna
>"<br><justme@prairieinet.net><br>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date:
>Fri,<br>21 Nov 2003 19:46:43 -0600<br><br>>I think this was the most
>important<br>thing you can do for your child...<br>> No matter what life
>throws at<br>them, they will be able to handle it...<br>>whether we
>approve or<br>not...<br>><br>>Donna<br>><br>><br>>> I became a
>very<br>>> independent<br>person, and raised my sons to be individuals.
>They<br>>haven't<br>>><br>always<br>>> turned out the way I expected,
>but they are all very much<br>independent<br>>>
>individuals.<br>>><br>>><br><br>Thanks for your
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