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Re: Re: dragonwing


Marge, Jim, and Daryl,
Thanks for your help.  The reason, I believe, there is little to no info on
temp out there is because these plants are generally grown as annuals.  Pan
American, I'm sure, would prefer that you buy new ones every year.  But I'm
a great believer in giving some tender perennials a second chance.  2
reasons - a) some are not cheap and b) some can put on a more spectacular
show the second year.

We've been encouraging our MGs in the individual display gardens to at least
try to overwinter some of these plants.  Some, like Persian Shield
(Strobilanthes) get too woody and don't look nice the second year, but
cuttings taken from them and carried over are easy and perform
exceptionately well.  Others, like the begonias can overwinter in a cool
resting stage or as houseplants.  However, one of our MGs who overwintered
DW begonias at home last year stated that she was leaving them in a cold
stone shed overwinter this year.  We get down to 20 below zero here every
year, usually only for a few days, but last year it went on for a straight 3
weeks.  I just don't think it's a good idea, but I was hoping to find
something more convincing to tell her than my gut feelings.

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: dragonwing


> Well, Kitty, I'm sure glad you found it because I had no luck when I
> tried searching.  Interesting plants.  I would guess that they can
> tolerate temperatures colder than 18C, but won't be in active growth
> and I also suspect that they can survive temps in the low 40s without
> major damage - my angel wings and rhizomatous begonias do this
> regularly but not for extremely extended periods.  I have a couple
> that have seeded into pots that are going to be in the greenhouse all
> winter; we shall see how they do there as temps get close to freezing
> on occasion.  Also had some seed into the garden; am sure they aren't
> gonna make it.
>
> Seems to me, tho', that begonias generally prefer it cooler than
> hotter???
>
> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> mtalt@hort.net
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> > From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >
> > Well, Jim, while searching for info to explain to you what a DW
> begonia is I
> > finally found one site that gave a min temp, though it doesn't seem
> correct.
> > As Daryl mentioned earlier, she's had them survive down to 27 F.
> >
> > Dragonwing begonias are hybrids that have the erect habit of the
> anglewing
> > parent but the free flowering habit and bright red flowers of the
> wax
> > begonia parent. It usually grows to 18 inches tall from several
> erect,
> > cane-like stems. The leaves are similar in shape to the anglewing
> parent but
> > smaller and more glossy and succulent like the wax begonia parent.
> The plant
> > 's creator is PanAmerican Seed Co.
> >
> > I found one site:
> > http://www.highqgreenhouses.com/infosheets/AtoC/dragonwing.htm
> > that says:
> > Grow Temp. / Pinching Heat tolerant, Minimum 180C
> > but a converter tells me that is 64 degrees F, and surely they're
> more
> > durable than that.  Is a minimum growing temperature in the trade
> the same
> > as the minimum that plant needs to survive?
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: dragonwing
> >
> >
> > > Hi, Kitty. Didn't pick this up immediately because I'm not sure
> what a
> > > dragonwing is. Is it different from an angelwing [other than
> > > philosophically, of course]?
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 10:29 PM, Kitty wrote:
> > >
> > > > Daryl,
> > > > Thanks, that's a start.  I'm still waiting for someone at
> begonias.org
> > > > to
> > > > make an effort.  That's the nice thing about this list.  People
> will
> > > > chip in
> > > > whatever they can even if they don't have a complete answer.
> It helps.
> > > > Kitty
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Armitage CD and other electronic wonders
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>  I've been
> > > >>> trying to find the min temp of dragonwing begonias without
> much luck.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kitty,
> > > >>
> > > >> If it's any help, I've had them survive a very short period at
> 27
> > > >> degrees.
> > > >> The tops look terrible, but they've come back from a few nodes
> down.
> > > > They'd
> > > >> been used to cooler temps. I don't know whether they'd survive
> 80-27
> > > >> as
> > > >> well.
> > > >>
> > > >> Daryl
> >
> >
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