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Re: Sambucus "Black Beauty & Black Lace"

Isn't "Black Beauty" a cultivar of the European elderberry? In my  
experience, cultivars in general are less vigorous than either  
parent. ( I have a cutleaf cultivar of the American Elderberry, and  
it is just limping along.

Cathy, west central IL, z5b

On Oct 20, 2005, at 7:41 AM, Gene Bush wrote:

> Good luck, Tricia
>    I have native sambucus growing on my property, but can not seem  
> to get the hybrid or cultivars to establish them selves. Mostly  
> they have simply died in the transplant. The ones who have survived  
> struggle, loose all their foliage, look burned out. Have tried them  
> both in shade and sun. Same story. perhaps others have different  
> experiences... sure hope so. I have about given up on having all  
> that "black" foliage. It is dramatic.
>    Gene E. Bush
> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
> www.munchkinnursery.com
> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
> Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "pdickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
>> I just saw a couple of pictures of these too shrubs.  Wow... has  
>> anyone seen them yet?
>> Sambucus "Black Beauty" has been out since 2000 but "Black Lace"  
>> is coming out in 2006.
>> I get a newsletter from About.com Gardening Guide that has an  
>> interesting article on "Black Foliage Shrubs to Add Color to Your  
>> Garden".
>> If you are interested I can forward the e-mail to you.
>> I love Elderberries anyway and this one looks exciting.
>> Tricia
>> zone 6b
>> western Ok
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